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There is only ONE WAY to be saved.
The Bible ^ | January 12, 2014 | knarf

Posted on 01/12/2014 5:53:46 AM PST by knarf

You don't need a priest, or sacraments, or a "church", or a denomination, or charismatic 'gifts' or baptism or hierarchal permission, sanction nor absolution ...


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To: vladimir998
The story is absolutely true - and far less clear than you make it sound. “Paradise” is not necessarily Heaven, and Christ wasn’t going to Heaven on Good Friday. He only went to Heaven (as far as we know) at the Ascension. The Good Thief, known to tradition as St. Dismas, may have gone to a natural paradise rather than the abode of God. He was saved from hell fire - of that there can be no doubt - but exactly where he ended up is unclear.

So he didn't end up in Hell, but he may not have made it to heaven...HaHaHa...Didn't realize there was a 3rd option...That must be a Catholic thing cuz it's certainly not a bible thing...

41 posted on 01/12/2014 8:05:27 AM PST by Iscool
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To: knarf
Please, please, please read some of these links about salvation.

We have a part to do also. Yes, Jesus died for our sins, but that doesn't mean we can go off committing adultery, murder, having abortions, not caring about our parents, not going to church on Saturday or Sunday. We MUST do our part too.

Can We Lose Our Salvation?
Baptism and Salvation
A Summary of our Salvation – A Meditation on the Readings from the 4th Sunday of Advent
On the Beauty of God's Plan of Salvation
GOP's salvation lies in being more 'Catholic'
Catholic Bishop: Voting for Obama, Dems Could Place Salvation of Your Own Soul in Serious Jeopardy’

On Infant Baptism and the Complete Gratuity of Salvation
Essays for Lent/Easter: Salvation Outside the Church?
The Question of Universal Salvation: Will All Be Saved?
"There Can Be No Rupture in Salvation History" [Benedict XVI to Jewish Community in Germany]
The Catholic Teaching on Salvation by Faith Alone (Catholic / Orthodox Caucus)
Promising Salvation to Non-Catholics: A Sin against Charity
On Being Sober and Serious in Seeking Salvation
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] Benedict XVI at Angelus: Mary's mission of salvation and intercession continues..
Finders Keepers? - The Evangelical notion that Christians can't lose their salvation is unbiblical.
Fresh Embrace of Everlasting Salvation [New Mass Translation Does Away With "Barbecue Talk"]

Marriage is instrument of salvation for society, declares Benedict XVI
Catholic and Protestant "Similarities" on Faith, Faith Alone, Salvation...
Radio Replies Second Volume - Salvation of the Soul
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Salvation: A Biblical Portrait
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Salvation: "Being Saved"
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Catholic Response to "Are You Saved?"
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Knowledge of Salvation
A note from Roy Schoeman... (author of 'Salvation is from the Jews')
Radio Replies First Volume - Grace and salvation
Radio Replies First Volume - "Outside the Church no salvation"

Salvation - Are You Saved?
No Salvation Outside the Church
Prayer the Great Means of Salvation: Ch.1: The Necessity of Prayer, Sect. 3 Invocation of the Saints
Prayer the Great Means of Salvation: Chapter 1: The Necessity of Prayer, Section 2
Prayer: The Great Means of Salvation and of Perfection Ch. 1: The Necessity of Prayer, Section 1
What does the Catholic Church mean by the phrase, "Outside the Church there is no salvation"
Christian, I Presume? (Salvation) [Ecumenical]
Rock Solid: The Salvation History of the Catholic Church [Ecumenical]
Who Can Be Saved?
Grace, Faith, and Works

Getting in Touch With Reality (good character and behavior as a ticket to Heaven)
My Personal Savior
The Early Church Fathers on Salvation Outside the Church [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Extra ecclesiam - Outside the Church there is no salvation.M.a
Is Faith Necessary for Salvation? (Part 2)
Good Will Equals Salvation? (Did the pope say non christians could be saved - part 1)
The Experience of the Salvation of Christ Today
Nonbelievers Too Can Be Saved, Says Pope
Worthy Is the Lamb?
Limbo and the Hope of Salvation

42 posted on 01/12/2014 8:41:25 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: knarf

But the thief on the Cross did something.

First, he rebuked his fellow criminal — a good thing to do.
Secondly, he asked for Jesus to remember him when he came into his kingdom that day.

He didn’t just hang there and do nothing.....he did two very important things.

In other words, Jesus can’t do all your work for you!


43 posted on 01/12/2014 8:44:43 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: daniel1212
"one reason is that hiereus is never used for NT pastors, nor does it mean presbuteros or episkopeō , despite entomology based on imposed functional equivalence (and all believers offer sacrifice and make up the general priesthood" (1Pt. 2:5,9)). " Of course Catholics can ask God for forgiveness without the help of a priest. We do it all the time. I've done it 3 times this morning, already. It is clearly shown throughout Scripture and Early Church History that there was an hierarchical priesthood set up. “Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” When he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained. .....John 20:21-23 Jesus requested this, specifically. In the fullness of Jesus Christ's Gospel, this is why it is done. Why is it that other Christians, do not do it?
44 posted on 01/12/2014 8:44:57 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Ted Cruz...2016-24 ...A New Conservative Era)
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To: knarf

Repentance is an act. It means getting down on your knees and asking forgiveness. Haven’t you ever asked for forgiveness from your spouse? Parent? Friend?

For Catholic repentance means getting down on our knees too and confessing our sins to another human being. We have a better deal than you do, for the priest is acting as Christ, alter Christus, the power five to him at his ordination that goes all the way back to Christ breathing on the Apostles and telling them that they can forgive or hold bound sins.


45 posted on 01/12/2014 8:48:28 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: knarf

Catechism of the Catholic Church

 

1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:

 

God, the Father of mercies,
through the death and the resurrection of his Son
has reconciled the world to himself
and sent the Holy Spirit among us
for the forgiveness of sins;
through the ministry of the Church
may God give you pardon and peace,
and I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

 


46 posted on 01/12/2014 8:49:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tudorfly

” Even at the moment of one’s last breath, it is possible for the mercy of God to prevail over our sinful heart and sin filled past.”

If true contrition is in the heart of the sinner when asking for forgiveness.

Otherwise, its just words and gets you nowhere.


47 posted on 01/12/2014 8:51:50 AM PST by Hulka
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To: daniel1212

A non-Catholic CAN go in and talk with the priest, but the full benefits of the Sacrament will not be available to him. I’ve known several non-Catholics at retreats who have gone in and talked with the priest during the Confession time. (Usually on Saturday night.)


48 posted on 01/12/2014 8:53:13 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: vladimir998

And paradise was where all the souls of the faithful from the Old Testament were waiting. Catholics call this waiting place Purgatory, correct?


49 posted on 01/12/2014 8:55:12 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Iscool

Yes, it is a Bible thing, because Christ was the first one into heaven.


50 posted on 01/12/2014 8:58:29 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RitaOK

When someone uses the words, `to me’, in their explanation of salvation, I immediately know I’m talking with someone who has put their opinion above God’s word.


52 posted on 01/12/2014 9:22:37 AM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: mlizzy

Can you kindly translate that please. Thank-you! :)


53 posted on 01/12/2014 9:23:05 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: NKP_Vet

“Jesus, I believe you died so I could rape and murder all those women,


I can see your point also.

But i also believe
You don’t need a priest, or sacraments, or a “church”, or a denomination, or charismatic ‘gifts’ or baptism or hierarchal permission, sanction nor absolution ...


54 posted on 01/12/2014 9:23:17 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Salvation

As God He has to.


55 posted on 01/12/2014 9:27:05 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ravenwolf

As a Evangelical Protestant Christian?


56 posted on 01/12/2014 9:28:03 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: tired&retired
It's been the near death experiences by those who came back with a story to tell, both the good and the hellish, that made Christianity "real" for me.

Prophecy is fascinating, but waiting for the next clue or event is tough and, prophetic, interesting times or not, patience hard to find standing in line for a ticket to that show.

However, by reading the many, many stories from all ages, nationalities, walks of life and belief, especially the stories of hell and purgatory, I've come to the belief beyond faith I've been searching for.

Those stories are like CCleaner for my inner spiritual registry, helping to remove the accumulated malware of the world that's been distorting my perceptions and making it hard to read the map on my prodigal way back home.

57 posted on 01/12/2014 9:28:42 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: knarf
GRACE
58 posted on 01/12/2014 9:31:45 AM PST by jobim (.)
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To: Iscool; vladimir998
"That must be a Catholic thing cuz it's certainly not a bible thing..."

Yeah, Vlad, you forgot something.

Jesus was fudging, everyone is, "dead, dead, dead", until such time the Evangelical crowd sees fit for them to be recreated. All that, "shall not die" business is the result of mistranslation or misunderstanding on your part.

It has to be that way or denying the power of the Holy Spirit to throw part of the Old Testament in the garbage was a waste of time.

(is a '/sarc' tag really required?)

59 posted on 01/12/2014 9:46:14 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

SARC.


60 posted on 01/12/2014 9:48:29 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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