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To: DouglasKC; Salvation; All

Judging from the.. ummm... “quality” of your latest posts, I think you’re running out of steam. I’ll keep this response short then:

“Jesus Christ followed the sabbath law that he created perfectly.”


The most fascinating aspect of all this is that the Jews fully expected God to have the authority to abolish the Sabbath day, whenever He pleased. Hence the quote from Kimchi, in his commentary of Josiah, wherein he notes that God commanded the Hebrews to take Jericho on the 7th day, after having marched around the city for the previous 6 days.

Indeed, and the Priests too, who break the Sabbath when they are about the work of God, are called “blameless” by Christ in the quote you ignored, as agreed upon by the Jews themselves, as Dr. Gill notes:

“There were many things, which, according to the Jewish canons, the priests might do on the sabbath day; particularly they might slay the sacrifice: it was a rule with them, “that slaying drives away the sabbath” (u). They might also knead, make, and bake the showbread on the sabbath day: their general rule was, as R. Akiba says, that what was possible to be done on the evening of the sabbath, did not drive away the sabbath; but what was not possible to be done on the sabbath eve, did drive away the sabbath (w): so they might kill the passover, sprinkle its blood, wipe its inwards, and burn the fat on the sabbath day (x), with many other things. What exculpated these men was, that what they did was done in the temple, and for the service of it, upon which an emphasis is put; and agrees with their canons, which say, that there is no prohibition in the sanctuary; “that which is forbidden to be done on the sabbath, is lawful to be done in the sanctuary” (John Gill, quoting (u) T. Bab. Menachot, fol. 72. 2. (w) Misn. Menachot, c. 11. sect. 3. (x) Misn. Pesachim, c. 6. sect. 1. Maimon. Pesach. c. 1. sect. 18.)

Hence why Christ justifies the Apostles for breaking the Sabbath by saying, “There is one here who is GREATER than the temple,” which is a direct reference to Jewish interpretation of Priestly activity. And He justly concludes, ‘The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath day” as well, and, if the Lord, He may abrogate it as He pleases.

You claim that Christ was simply not following the Pharisees’ teaching on the matter. On the contrary, not only was their teaching in full agreement with His actions, He asserted His agreement with them and used His breaking of them to declare His identity as Messiah, which they hypocritically rejected; and He did this, using the exact mirror image of Exodus, that is, of the Hebrews not being allowed to pluck food on the Sabbath, with His Apostles flagrantly doing the opposite, because “There is one GREATER than the Temple” present with them!

And this He did many times, flagrantly, as the laws called anyone unclean who touched the body of a dead man, or anything that the dead touched, or of certain individuals with great illnesses, which Christ did happily, while at the same time making them absolutely clean. Thus, by His works, He proved Himself LORD over all the Law, He who is cleanliness Himself, much to the chagrin of the Pharisees who would not own Him to be the Messiah, which all His actions showed He was.


118 posted on 01/11/2014 4:59:53 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
The most fascinating aspect of all this is that the Jews fully expected God to have the authority to abolish the Sabbath day, whenever He pleased. Hence the quote from Kimchi, in his commentary of Josiah, wherein he notes that God commanded the Hebrews to take Jericho on the 7th day, after having marched around the city for the previous 6 days. Indeed, and the Priests too, who break the Sabbath when they are about the work of God, are called “blameless” by Christ in the quote you ignored, as agreed upon by the Jews themselves, as Dr. Gill notes:

What's most fascinating is that you won't defend your position with scripture but will instead depend upon the opinion of a Jew who did not believe in Jesus as the messiah.

And again, instead of mounting a scriptural defense of your position you'll quote the opinions of someone else.

To me this indicates that you can't defend your position based on scripture but instead in an effort to lend legitimacy to your opinions you rely on quoting others.

I've noticed also that in my response I based my opinion almost exclusively on scripture and absolutely proved that your positions were based on lifting verses out of context and applying your own interpretations. You neither refuted what I said nor attempted to quote other scripture that supported your position.

In other words, your can't prove a single bit of what you've asserted via scripture. That makes sense since whatever you believe is based almost entirely on tradition.

119 posted on 01/11/2014 8:57:13 PM PST by DouglasKC
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