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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Nor did He follow the Sabbath according to the Law, but did as He pleased, since He is ‘Lord of the Sabbath’ too:
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. Exo 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.
Compare:
Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
Mat 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.

Jesus Christ followed the sabbath law that he created perfectly. He did NOT follow the sabbath laws as DEFINED and ADDED to by the Pharisees.

You quote two veses from Exodus 16 and matthew 12 to "prove" that the Lord God violated his sabbath which he made holy in the beginning:

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
Gen 2:3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Your first clue that you're completely wrong is that YOU'RE on the side of the Pharisees...you're right next to them, yelling at Jesus that he violated the sabbath law.

You presume to tell God almighty, the Lord of the sabbath, WHAT the sabbath law is.

That alone should have made you study the issue a little more before you posted this nonsense. Jesus had not much good to say about the Pharisees. They were grossly in error in their doctrine and had violated the Lord's written laws in order to keep their traditions. That should make you pause and think...gee....why am I agreeing with the Pharisees and accusing Christ?

In context Exodus 16 actually affirms the sabbath...it was given as a reminder to Israel that the sabbath was created holy in the beginning and they should honor it. And this was done BEFORE Israel got to Mt. Sinai and the formation of the old covenant. In other words, the sabbath stands outside of the old covenant. At least according to God.

I shouldn't have to read or quote the entire chapter to for you or anyone else to see the verses in context.

You then quote Matthew 12:1 to presumably "prove" that Exodus 16:1 applies to matthew 12:1. Obviously not but of course you made the same mistakes the pharisses made. You think you know better than the Lord how his sabbath should be kept.

There's nothing wrong with what Jesus did on the sabbath with his disciples. The pharisees DEFINED it as being wrong. They may have though it violated exodus 16, but they also thought it violated commmandments about working on the sabbath because they considered these actions as "harvesting". They had hundreds of micro-managed rules about what could or could not be done on the sabbath. They made the sabbath a burden instead of a delight as the Lord intended:

Isa_58:13 "If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day, And call the Sabbath a delight, The holy day of the LORD honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words,

113 posted on 01/11/2014 7:59:43 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC; Salvation; All

Judging from the.. ummm... “quality” of your latest posts, I think you’re running out of steam. I’ll keep this response short then:

“Jesus Christ followed the sabbath law that he created perfectly.”


The most fascinating aspect of all this is that the Jews fully expected God to have the authority to abolish the Sabbath day, whenever He pleased. Hence the quote from Kimchi, in his commentary of Josiah, wherein he notes that God commanded the Hebrews to take Jericho on the 7th day, after having marched around the city for the previous 6 days.

Indeed, and the Priests too, who break the Sabbath when they are about the work of God, are called “blameless” by Christ in the quote you ignored, as agreed upon by the Jews themselves, as Dr. Gill notes:

“There were many things, which, according to the Jewish canons, the priests might do on the sabbath day; particularly they might slay the sacrifice: it was a rule with them, “that slaying drives away the sabbath” (u). They might also knead, make, and bake the showbread on the sabbath day: their general rule was, as R. Akiba says, that what was possible to be done on the evening of the sabbath, did not drive away the sabbath; but what was not possible to be done on the sabbath eve, did drive away the sabbath (w): so they might kill the passover, sprinkle its blood, wipe its inwards, and burn the fat on the sabbath day (x), with many other things. What exculpated these men was, that what they did was done in the temple, and for the service of it, upon which an emphasis is put; and agrees with their canons, which say, that there is no prohibition in the sanctuary; “that which is forbidden to be done on the sabbath, is lawful to be done in the sanctuary” (John Gill, quoting (u) T. Bab. Menachot, fol. 72. 2. (w) Misn. Menachot, c. 11. sect. 3. (x) Misn. Pesachim, c. 6. sect. 1. Maimon. Pesach. c. 1. sect. 18.)

Hence why Christ justifies the Apostles for breaking the Sabbath by saying, “There is one here who is GREATER than the temple,” which is a direct reference to Jewish interpretation of Priestly activity. And He justly concludes, ‘The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath day” as well, and, if the Lord, He may abrogate it as He pleases.

You claim that Christ was simply not following the Pharisees’ teaching on the matter. On the contrary, not only was their teaching in full agreement with His actions, He asserted His agreement with them and used His breaking of them to declare His identity as Messiah, which they hypocritically rejected; and He did this, using the exact mirror image of Exodus, that is, of the Hebrews not being allowed to pluck food on the Sabbath, with His Apostles flagrantly doing the opposite, because “There is one GREATER than the Temple” present with them!

And this He did many times, flagrantly, as the laws called anyone unclean who touched the body of a dead man, or anything that the dead touched, or of certain individuals with great illnesses, which Christ did happily, while at the same time making them absolutely clean. Thus, by His works, He proved Himself LORD over all the Law, He who is cleanliness Himself, much to the chagrin of the Pharisees who would not own Him to be the Messiah, which all His actions showed He was.


118 posted on 01/11/2014 4:59:53 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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