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1 posted on 01/08/2014 2:34:23 AM PST by markomalley
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2 posted on 01/08/2014 2:35:06 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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I exorcise thee, unclean spirit, in the name of the Father + and of the Son, + and of the Holy + Spirit, that thou goest out and depart from this servant of God, N.

To me, that sounds very much as if the rite is treating the newborn child as if he were possessed by the devil. The condition of original sin is not the same as demonic possession.

It would be interesting to learn the Orthodox position on this, since (as far as I understand) they regard original sin rather differently: not as "badness dumped on top" but "sanctification not on yet."

3 posted on 01/08/2014 2:44:03 AM PST by Tax-chick (The superpowers ascribed to "feminists" make me wish I was one.)
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The Rite of Exorcism is still an integral part of baptism in the Maronite Church.


6 posted on 01/08/2014 3:22:28 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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The Priest: Michael, Francis Rizzi, do you renounce Satan?
Michael Corleone: I do renounce him.
The Priest: And all his works?
Michael Corleone: I do renounce them.

9 posted on 01/08/2014 3:51:32 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Of course they should bring them back. They never should have been taken away in the first place.

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10 posted on 01/08/2014 4:02:49 AM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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The closest you see now in regards to the minor exocisms being done in regards to baptism is when it comes to the RCIA ministry, when there are adults who are coming into the Church via RCIA/baptism, and during the last 3 Sundays in Lent, called the Scrutinies.


13 posted on 01/08/2014 4:42:34 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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20 posted on 01/08/2014 6:05:53 AM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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As I read those prayers silently, somehow Max Von Sydow supplied the voice.


21 posted on 01/08/2014 7:19:37 AM PST by Oratam
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Yes, definitely bring them back.


24 posted on 01/08/2014 7:54:28 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I’ll take all the help I can get.


33 posted on 01/08/2014 1:46:59 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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