“All things come to pass in the due time of the Lord. So for the LDS Church to not ordain Black people for a length of time, is totally in keeping with the pattern God has maintained from Adam on down. And God doesn’t care about your PC’ness.
It’s no different than the Levites. Or Jesus Himself, not teaching anyone but the Jews. Blacks were allowed to join the Church however. But all things in the due time of the Lord.
Just as Jesus eventually allowed the Gentiles to hear the gospel, so eventually Jesus allowed the Blacks to hold the priesthood.”
Well, that’s a novel defense at least. The problem with it is that there was just one chosen people to the Lord (the Israelites), and once Christ tore the veil of the Temple, it was opened to ALL peoples. There was no additional restriction levied only on blacks that remained after Christ. So, obviously, whatever restrictions the LDS placed on blacks couldn’t have come from God.
If you somehow don't think that was the case, then perhaps you missed this "bulletin" from the apostle Paul:
22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified... For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. (1 Cor. 1:22-23; 2:1)
The very heart of the Gospel is encapsulated in 1 Corinthians 15...and note the phrase "first importance" (minus all the restoration crap add-ons Mormonism's usurpers pour on):
"3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that...
(a)...Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
(b) ... 4 that he was buried,
(c)...that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
(continuing) ...5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.
Did you catch what Paul said were "first principles" -- of "first import" there?
Jesus dying (for our sins), His death & His resurrection!!!
Guess what? Except for some prophecies He gave His closest disciples that this was going to happen (and they still largely didn't comprehend it yet), NONE of that -- His death, burial, & resurrection, occurred during Jesus' public ministry time to the Jews...
ALL: Do you see how Mormonism's flimsiest "logic" goes? Illogical for them to consider anyBODY else...anything else...than Jesus Christ on Calvary, Jesus Christ buried in the tomb, and Jesus Christ Alive Again as whatever false Gospel Mormonism's hucksters hurl at people!
The problem is that Mormonism's missionary indoctrination program stuffs its grassroots Lds with a completely different "gospel" to what's above.
In and around Jesus' time, the prophets included...
...Anna (Luke 2:36: 36 "There was also a prophet, Anna, the daughter of Penuel, of the tribe of Asher. She was very old...")
...And Philip's four daughters were prophetesses as well (Acts 21:8-9)
Some "restoration" your church is...when it can't bring itself to come up to the standard of Jesus' day!
As for the priesthood, Peter and John make it clear that the priesthood now belongs to all believers (1 Peter 2:4-9; Revelation 1:5-6).
Unless, of course you don't think females...
...qualify as part of the "chosen PEOPLE" (1 Peter 2:9);
...or that they are not part of God's "holy NATION" (1 Peter 2:9);
...or you somehow rule out that females are not God's "special POSSESSION" (1 Peter 2:9);
...or that when John wrote about our Lord loving US and freeing US "from our sins by his blood," you somehow think that doesn't apply to women (Rev. 1:5-6)...
...or that women aren't somehow subjects within the "kingdom" John references in Rev. 1:6.
Rather exclusively sexist in interpretation of these passages, eh?
Sorry...but you can look high & low for "ordination" in the Bible as it's been interpreted by Catholics, most of Protestantism, and Mormonism, and you won't find it. (There's a KJV usage of "ordain" in Titus 1:5...a Greek word there that just means appointing plural elders in each city...but as this explains, "Ordain", ordination developed a life of its own apart from the Bible...and the Mormon "scriptures" have only served to layer it beyond ANY recognition from how the Church of Jesus Christ operated in the first century!)
In fact, here's a test for you: What's the Greek word for "ordination?" What verses does it talk about in the New Testament, as it applies the way most churches use it today?
Where is priesthood & "ordination" EVER linked up together in the New Testament other than a vague reference to a high priest appointed to offer up sacrifices (Heb. 8:3)? (And what sacrifices do the Mormon "ordained" offer up if that verse applies to them?)
I expect answers if you are going to be so bold as to circulate what you think flies for Biblical instruction. (Hey, I'm ignorant on MANY, MANY things...we ALL are...the difference is, not everybody seeks to export it in areas they've yet to bring to bear upon influencing others).
Hey, for a very, very, very good reason:
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall NO MAN see me, and live." (Exodus 33:20)
Btw, who gave you authorization to mess with the Bible...and change "no man" to "a select few?"
Do you do that regularly? (Or only when trying to make a FR baseless point?)
Even when God appeared to Moses He did it thru a burning bush and then by avoiding Moses seeing His full display of glory!
What? Are you saying that everybody else is "blessed by God" so that can keep those blessings for themselves?
Your point?
Even every spiritual gift given by the Holy Spirit is for the common good (1 Corinthians 12:7)
Even the comfort we receive is meant for others (2 Corinthians 1)
Ever hear of the phrase "paying it forward?"
Is there ANYONE God doesn't bless for the common good?
What? A new beatitude from your keyboard: "Blessed are the hoarders, for they shall see God?"
(Still don't see your point 'cause I can't think of a single person who's ever lived on planet earth that hasn't been blessed in order to be a blessing to others...even those regarded as the "least of these" or the mentally retarded bless others with their smiles and their get-down-to-brass tacks hugs & loving dispositions)
(See my last post; it applies to this one as well)
So?
You're not saying God disrespected other people, are you?
IF so, I wanna see it in print: Repeat after me: "I, Stormprepper, firmly believe, that the God of the Old Testament, disrespected other people groups."
Now, IF you wanna make THAT point...let's have a discussion 'bout that...
Tell me something, Stormprepper...If you watch the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, how many directors are there leading? How many conductors are there for orchestras? And in most music groups, is it left up to mere whim as to who picks up and plays what instrument that given day?
Our God created music; His glory demands worship. And the Levites were in charge of that.
We see harmony in music. We see diversity of instruments and sounds and pitches and ranges, etc. all harmonized into one hymn, one song...all of which reflects a diverse God (three personalities) within one God.
Such worship takes a little coordination, and a helter-skelter leadership approach doesn't tend to "cut it."
Just because I only see one pitcher on the mound at a time, or one quarterback calling signals at a time, doesn't make me think that God disrespects an overall "team" approach. In fact, Paul says precisely THE OPPOSITE:
14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many. 15 Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it... (1 Cor. 12)
(We're all team members just like we're all worshipers; but not everyone was in charge of worship)
11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.
...Meaning that WE on the outside see differing "respective" gifts; but Paul says tis all the Same Spirit working in and thru each one.
Just as Jesus eventually allowed the Gentiles to hear the gospel, so eventually Jesus allowed the Blacks to hold the priesthood.
Tell us, StormPrepper: How is the Mormon god -- in the Mormon baptism of the dead project -- going to keep from disrespecting the historically obscure? The 100% names forgotten? The illiterate whose names were NEVER recorded on anything that exists for Lds researchers to find?
(Surprising you didn't give THAT one as parallel #9)
Blacks were allowed to join the Church however.
Elijah Abel, 1/8th black, petitioned Brigham Young in 1853 for his temple endowment and was denied; and it came up again on May 31, 1879 at a Provo home; and he was denied again.
No temple access, no Mormon ability to live forever with Heavenly Father. You don't deny that Mormon doctrine, do you?
Are you REALLY this deceived?