[Gamecock]

How’s that working out for you?

[matthewrobertolson]

With the help of God's general grace and the Sacraments that He instituted (which are instruments of His grace), along with a faithful disposition, I can be holy. Scripture teaches this, as I have demonstrated.

The Church rejects the notion of "total depravity".

“If any one is truly religious, he is a man of God; but if he is irreligious, he is a man of the devil, made such, not by nature, but by his own choice.” – St. Ignatius of Antioch

“‘But unto them that are contentious,’ he [St. Paul] says [in Romans 2:8]. Again, he deprives of excuse those that live in wickedness, and shows that it is from a kind of disputatiousness and carelessness that they fall into unrighteousness. ‘And do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness.’ See, here is another accusation again. For what defense can he set up, who flees from the light and chooses the dark? And he does not say, who are ‘compelled by,’ ‘lorded over by,’ but who ‘obey unrighteousness,’ that one may learn that the fall is one of free choice, the crime not of necessity.” – St. John Chrysostom

[redleghunter]

Yes I have noted the self-righteous approach as well. As if we don’t all have enough beams in our own eyes to sit on morality mole hill and caste stones. If the purpose of this thread was to truly educate folks on contraceptives and the Roman position it should have been labeled ecumenical.