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1 posted on 12/31/2013 3:35:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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I say the Pope is an idiot on economics, and that he should shut up about it, as he is driving away people who otherwise might be open to the Church.


2 posted on 12/31/2013 3:44:56 PM PST by Kansas58
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Somebody is confusing capitalism with cronyism, don’t know if it’s the Pope or the writer, but for damn sure, if it continues, it will result in a blood bath without ever touching the true oligarchs and their cronies.

That’s how it always works when people who should know better peddle the politics of greed.


3 posted on 12/31/2013 3:49:12 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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When you ask governments to steal from the rich to aid the poor, you presume a benevolence foreign to mankind.

The rulers will use the power to destroy their enemies and purchase the loyalty of his beneficiaries. All the while enriching themselves and preserving their power.

This is the definition of tyranny.

Religious freedom will die in this environment.


4 posted on 12/31/2013 3:52:18 PM PST by G Larry
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This pope appears to adhere to the same 'religion' as Obama, namely, Liberation Theology. Strange because previous popes harshly denounced it.

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

5 posted on 12/31/2013 3:55:01 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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In my youth I spent many a long afternoon in a great lump of limestone that was our local library, courtesy of a rich man, a super rich man by any measure, Andrew Carnegie.

He was able to fund all the gifts he did because he was rich and over time he did far more for the poor than all the soup kitchens ever did.

The Pope simply does not understand what feeding sheep really entails.


6 posted on 12/31/2013 4:01:08 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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The author is an idiot.

Maybe she comment on this one next:
Philly's first gay Presbyterian pastor to lead Broad Street Ministry

7 posted on 12/31/2013 4:21:32 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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The only actual quote I see in this propaganda piece is the one of Bill Cosby’s.

Nice try, commie.


8 posted on 12/31/2013 4:27:16 PM PST by floralamiss ("If anything, the new taboo is decency." --Jonah Goldberg)
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If every single bit of all wealth were to be suddenly redistributed tomorrow so that all people had the same share, it would take no more than six months for things to return to exactly the way they are now.

I love Pope Francis; I think his heart’s in the right place, but hasn’t he heard the parable of teaching a man to fish?


9 posted on 12/31/2013 4:32:33 PM PST by Old_And_Grumpy
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Pope Francis evidently studied Economics 101 with Evita Peron.

"Yo Don Ciccio (Eytie for Father Frankie) ma che cazzo fai?"

10 posted on 12/31/2013 4:33:09 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (OK, Obama be bad. Now where's OUR Program, Plan, and Leader?)
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Two fairly recent related articles from the Washington Times...

What Bible is Pope Francis reading?
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2013/dec/18/what-bible-pope-francis-reading/

An American Catholic responds to Pope Francis
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/edge-precipice/2013/dec/28/american-catholic-responds-pope-francis-i/


11 posted on 12/31/2013 4:48:02 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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OK, what does taking care of the poor really mean? In all the pomp and robes the Church shows off, taking care of the poor is our responsibility. What I mean by this is, you have a neighbor who is out of work and can’t feed his family even on UE, you help him and his family. Or another neighbor needs to fix a fence and can’t afford 100 dollars for materials, go buy them and help him apply them. The LW’s ideal of taxation because Jesus wanted that is ridiculous because nowhere in Scripture can that be found. Jesus did feed the poor, but He also delivered a message if repentance and Salvation to the needy. They had to respond. So, if we are going to feed the masses, we have the same responsibility Jesus had and that is to preach the Gospel, and offer them the plan of salvation. Liberals want us to give our food and money and pay for “administrators” to distribute the food and get a paycheck and benefits for doing it. And the administrators for the most part live and eat better than the givers and the poor. Jesus would call them money changers, and curse them. Liberals wouldn’t want that you know. Just sayin’


15 posted on 12/31/2013 5:10:41 PM PST by realcleanguy
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this writer is as delusional as the pope is…..


17 posted on 12/31/2013 5:36:13 PM PST by Nifster
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The author is warping the words of Pope Francis. Progressives will always warp someones words to their own benefit, and the Pope is not above their secular craziness. Whatever the Pope believes about capitalism, or whether he fully understands economics, is irrelevant. He has stated unequivocally that the marxist ideology is intrinsically wrong, and he has spoken out mostly against cronyism or greed commonly observed in capitalism. That is always misconstrued by weak-minded, foolish progressives as anti-capitalist sentiment; it is not.


18 posted on 12/31/2013 5:43:05 PM PST by FutureRocketMan (Santorum/Perry or Perry/Santorum 2016 Rand Paul's pretty good too.)
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I say - a lot of people are trying to twist the words of the current Catholic Pope to better suit their own, usually evil in intent, position.

Part of the ever escalating “war” against all Christians, whether Catholic or Protestant.

I say-first consider the qualifications of the “journalist” as to his/her ability to accurately paraphrase whatever the Pope has actually said.

As a recent parable-Tina Fey, a female comedian on a TV show, while mocking Sarah Palin, was accurately and correctly quoted as saying “I can see Russia from my house”.
That “quote” is falsely attributed to Sarah Palin, based on sheer repetition of a satire.

I say - I would very much prefer to have a conversation with the Pope, than I would with the "Tina Fey" types.

20 posted on 12/31/2013 6:33:02 PM PST by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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I can’t remember having these problems with previous Popes.

Perhaps Francis talks too much.


25 posted on 12/31/2013 7:07:19 PM PST by dforest
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does this mean I can get part of the govt workers pension?....I mean they can “share” can’t they?


28 posted on 01/01/2014 1:52:46 AM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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Atlanta Daily World?!

Really?

30 posted on 01/01/2014 7:45:32 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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“I don’t like it. No sir, I don’t like it at all!”


34 posted on 01/01/2014 9:38:08 AM PST by onedoug
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Rep. Marcia Fudge writes fan letter to Pope Francis - December 13, 2013 - Rep. Marcia Fudge of Warrensville Heights released a letter she wrote to the Pope in her capacity as chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, applauding his efforts to bring attention to the downtrodden and likening his mission to that of the Black Caucus. "Since the beginning of your service, you have been vocal about the need for elected officials to acknowledge the growing inequality in our world," said Fudge's letter. "You have called upon us to look beyond the superficial approach to problem-solving and to dig deeper in addressing the real needs of people in our society. You have asked that we work together to make the structural changes required to close the widening gap between the rich and the poor. For more than 41 years, this has also been the charge of the Congressional Black Caucus."

"In America, nearly 1 in 4 children go to bed hungry every night," her letter continued. "Due to neglect, our neighborhoods are crumbling and millions of individuals who are homeless seek but do not find shelter each day.

"In the U.S. Congress, the CBC continues to be a voice for the voiceless, and your compelling calls for economic and social justice reflect our own. You are prompting the world to see that if we do not act with urgency, we will all endure the consequences of an indelibly fractured world. We stand with you in your appeal against complacency, and we admire your courage in working to make sure the Catholic Church is deeply engaged in the most pressing issues of our time." In an interview, Fudge said she sent the letter because she believes it's important for the Pope to know "there are a lot of people who agree with and support what he's doing," as he continues to make his mark

40 posted on 01/01/2014 1:36:22 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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do you know of any brilliant economists or democratic governmental leaders from Argentina???....you still don’t


41 posted on 01/02/2014 9:04:26 PM PST by terycarl
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