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To: greyfoxx39

Thank you for that Link it is from a Latter Day Saint but
SZonian wanted the bases from the scriptures. Which I told him I would gather up those things just because it is not done on New Years eve, you don’t have to get unkind about it.

Most of what goes on can be talked about and anyone who wants to know the rest can follow the Lord’s Jesus Christ council.


530 posted on 12/31/2013 6:00:46 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: restornu

On 29 March 1830 the Smith family were ex-communicated from the Presbyterian Church in Palmyra, NY because of Joey Smith’s preaching against Christianity and their continual support of his unBiblical views...

Two weeks later Joey Smith founded his own religion devoid of any Christian beliefs, tenets, practices, and ethics...


532 posted on 12/31/2013 6:06:57 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Joseph Smith’s bastard children

“Prescindia, who was Norman Buell’s wife and simultaneously a plural wife of the Prophet Joseph Smith, said that she did not know whether her husband Norman or the Prophet was the father of her son, Oliver. And a glance at a photo of Oliver shows a strong resemblance to Emma Smith’s boys.” (Mary Ettie V. Smith, “Fifteen Years Among the Mormons”, page 34; Fawn Brodie “No Man Knows My History” pages 301-302, 437-39)

Of this, historian Fawn Brodie herself further wrote: “Evidence of children born to Joseph Smith by women other than Emma is extremely scarce except in the case of Prescindia Huntington Buell. Prescindia once stated to Mrs. Ettie V. Smith that ‘she did not know whether Mr. Buel or the Prophet was the father of her son.’ This statement I regarded with due reserve until I discovered a photograph of the son, Oliver Buell, which showed an unmistakable likeness to other sons of Joseph, born by Emma Smith.

That the Huntington family looked upon young Oliver as the Prophet’s son is suggested by Oliver Huntington’s diary entry of November 14, 1884: ‘Then I stood proxy for the Prophet Joseph Smith in having sealed or adopted to him a child of my sister Prescenda, had while living with Norman Buell.’ The ambiguous wording of the phrase I have italicized is significant, especially since there is no similar entry for any other of her children.” (No Man Knows My History, Fawn Brodie)

My friend noted: It is obvious from this entry that the child was likely Joseph’s, since there would be no reason for Prescindia to have one child sealed to Joseph that she had with her own husband Norman, if born while living with Norman. I have looked for the photograph online, but have been unable to find it.

2. - “Sylvia P. Sessions, married to Windsor P. Lyon, gave birth to a daughter on 8 February 1844, less than five months before Joseph Smith’s martyrdom. That daughter, Josephine, related in a 24 February 1915 statement that prior to her mother’s death in 1882 ‘she called me to her bedside and told me that her days on earth were about numbered and before she passed away from mortality she desired to tell me something which she had kept as an entire secret from me and all others but which she now desired to communicate to me.’ Josephine’s mother told her she was ‘the daughter of the Prophet Joseph Smith, she having been sealed to the Prophet at the time that her husband Mr. Lyon was out of fellowship with the Church.’” (Affidavit to Church Historian Andrew Jenson, 24 Feb. 1915)


533 posted on 12/31/2013 6:08:47 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Abortion among the early Mormons

Doctor John C. Bennett was the on call abortionist for Joseph Smith

http://blog.mrm.org/2007/01/choose-life-choose-truth/

Sarah Pratt, wife of early LDS Apostle Orson Pratt, related a story from when she lived in the Mormon community of Nauvoo, Illinois:

“One day they came both, Joseph [Smith] and [John C.] Bennett, on horseback to my house. Bennett dismounted, Joseph remained outside. Bennett wanted me to return to him a book I had borrowed from him. It was a so-called doctor-book. I had a rapidly growing little family and wanted to inform myself about certain matters in regard to babies, etc., — this explains my borrowing that book. While giving Bennett his book, I observed that he held something in the left sleeve of his coat. Bennett smiled and said: ‘Oh, a little job for Joseph; one of his women is in trouble.’ Saying this. [sic] he took the thing out of his left sleeve. It was a pretty long instrument of a kind I had never seen before. It seemed to be of steel and was crooked at one end. I heard afterwards that the operation had been performed; that the woman was very sick, and that Joseph was very much afraid that she might die, but she recovered.”Bennett was the most intimate friend of Joseph for a time. He boarded with the prophet. He told me once that Joseph had been talking with him about his troubles with Emma, his wife. ‘He asked me,’ said Bennett, smilingly, ‘what he should do to get out of the trouble ?’ I said, ‘This is very simple. GET A REVELATION that polygamy is right, and all your troubles will be at an end.’” (Dr. W. Wyl, Mormon Portraits: Joseph Smith The Prophet — His Family and His Friends, 61-62)

Dr. Bennett’s abortions were in any way sanctioned by the LDS Church. Dr. Bennett was a scoundrel by all accounts. Consider the sworn testimony of Joseph Smith’s brother, Hyrum:

On the seventeenth day of May, 1842, having been made acquainted with some of the conduct of John C. Bennett, which was given in testimony, under oath…by several females who testified that John C. Bennett endeavored to seduce them, and accomplished his designs by saying it was right; that it was one of the mysteries of God, which was to be revealed when the people was strong enough in faith to bear such mysteries — that it was perfectly right to have illicit intercourse with females, providing no one knew it but themselves, vehemently trying them from day to day, to yield to his passions, bringing witnesses of his own clan to testify that there were such revelations and such commandments, and that they were of God; also stating that he would be responsible for their sins, if there were any, and that he would give them medicine to produce abortions, provided they should become pregnant.” (History of the Church, 5:71)

According to LDS authors Linda King Newell and Valeen Tippets Avery, if the women he approached were reluctant to accept Dr. Bennett’s proposals, he would tell them he came with Joseph Smith’s approval (Mormon Enigma, 111). There exists contradictory testimony from faithful Mormons, and from Bennett himself, that Smith’s name was never invoked during these encounters. Whatever the truth of the matter, Hyrum Smith’s testimony indicates that Dr. Bennett “accomplished his designs” with at least some of the women he approached (see also fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, 311).


536 posted on 12/31/2013 6:12:28 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

The Lord Jesus Christ counsel?


538 posted on 12/31/2013 6:14:41 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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