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To: soupbone1

Where have you been? The entire Catholic Mass is centered on Christ.

The Mass is divided into two parts — the Liturgy of the Word, readings from the Old Testament, Psalms, usually a letter of St. Paul and a Gospel from the New Testament. Then the priest gives a homily on one of those readings — most often, the Gospel. (The Word of Christ.)

The second part of the Mass is loaded with Scripture as the priest celebrates the Eucharist and the people come forth to receive the transubstantiated Body and Blood of Christ.

Luther was wrong is changing his views; had he worked inside of the Church to correct what he saw as errors, who knows what would have happened?

You are aware, aren’t you, that the Bible came from the Catholic Church and that before Luther, everyone was a Catholic?


28 posted on 12/27/2013 10:46:13 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; soupbone1; Colofornian
Luther was wrong is changing his views; had he worked inside of the Church to correct what he saw as errors, who knows what would have happened?

Are you forgetting that the Catholic Church REFUSED to correct the many long running abuses and false doctrines Luther and other Reformers tried to resolve? Are you forgetting that it was the Catholic Church that excommunicated Luther? "Who knows what would have happened?", you ask? There would have been no need for a Reformation? Perhaps - but don't for a minute think that God wasn't working through it to preserve the faith once delivered unto the saints - NOT the one the Catholic Church had perverted.

You are aware, aren’t you, that the Bible came from the Catholic Church and that before Luther, everyone was a Catholic?

We are aware that FRoman Catholics like to play a switcheroo and use the generic word "catholic" - which meant UNIVERSAL or 'on the whole' - and try to imply that the Apostles and other Scripture writers were all "Catholics", but we know that trick. We also know that the believers in Christ were called Christians and that it wasn't until the second century that anyone even started using the generic term catholic. So, no, the Bible did NOT come from the Catholic Church nor was "everyone" a Catholic. Plenty of myths to sort out. The ex-Mormons should be glad that they only have a few hundred years to think on. Imagine a religious organization that has had a few thousand years, has held temporal power over kings and kingdoms and the $billions to show for it, the resources to squelch dissenters along with their documentation and can command absolute fealty under threat of eternal damnation. JS could have only dreamed of THAT kind of power!

45 posted on 12/28/2013 12:13:04 AM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Salvation

“Luther was wrong is changing his views; had he worked inside of the Church to correct what he saw as errors, who knows what would have happened?”

I suspect the answer is nothing would have happened. It’s been quite a few years. Many errors he pointed out remain.


99 posted on 12/28/2013 9:16:18 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truthorth reading)
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To: Salvation

“You are aware, aren’t you, that the Bible came from the Catholic Church “

The Bible came from God, as His Holy Spirit inspired specific men to write it. 2/3s existed before any church.


100 posted on 12/28/2013 9:17:12 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truthorth reading)
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