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To: boatbums; metmom
You even confirm in your post that there are "settled truths" which Catholics MUST believe and that is the gist of the argument.

Quite simply, the Church does not conform to meet the beliefs of Her membership. This does happen on the Protestant side where hard truths are set aside for good fellowship. Many church-shop seeking a "comfortable" fit. If you wish you be Catholic, you accept the truths of the Church. What is so hard to understand about that?

There are settled truths within the Catholic Church or broadly in the rest of Christianity. There are certainly authoritative statements on this very thread of what a Christian MUST believe to be a Christian by yourself and others. What were you saying about double standards?

Many things got added and changed over the centuries in the Catholic religion on the core tenets of the faith. Many of which compelled the Reformation.

Doctrines and Dogma have never been corrupted (even despite deliberate machinations to do so) but practices have. Christ is building His Church. There have been growths and prunings. The faux disgust heaped on the Catholic Church by Protestant denominations which can't even agree amonst themselves is appalling.

It is because they have been declared as de fide (of the faith) by the magesterium, then there IS no room for dissension or questioning. To dare do so brings down punishment and continued resistance to believing everything you are told DOES threaten everlasting condemnation in hell BY the very priests ordained to shepherd the flock of God.

Bunk. Every child is taught the Catechism. Many question it. We answer questions. We ask questions ourselves. It is a process of faith and it is encouraged, not discouraged.

It is disingenuous to say that anyone who questions what the Catholic Church teaches is "hating" the church or being a "bigot".

We don't use those words for those who bring questions. We answer questions. We save those words for those heap scorn on the Church with slander. "Whore of Babylon" and other such sound familiar?

It's interesting that so many theologians of the church were allowed to question and think and their evolving conclusions were allowed to change things that had previously BEEN settled truths. But let a Catholic, or a former one, question these things today and they are castigated as heretics and schismatics. Quite the double standard!

No. What you quote here is demonstrably false. Again, we endeavor to answer questions. The net is full of Catholic answer sites. What I find offensive is those who left the faith in ignorance turning around to proclaim themselves subject matter experts. The falsehoods laid at the feet of the Church come from such as these. I once again quote Archbishop Fulton Sheen because he is so right: "There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be." I blame the real schismatics (like yourself and Metmom on here) for these false perceptions.

How we KNOW what is the true faith is by the rule of faith GOD gave to us - His sacred Scriptures - and all claims of truth MUST be measured by it and not the whims and wishes of sinful men.

So on one hand, you presume to explain the Magisterium of the Church. On the other, you come up with this statement above. If you understood the Magisterium of the Church to even the most minor degree, you yourself would laugh at you own ridiculous assertion. By it, you make it seem that the whims of sinful men are the rules of the faith. Not by a long shot.

192 posted on 12/28/2013 9:32:05 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke
Quite simply, the Church does not conform to meet the beliefs of Her membership.

And yer the COUNTER Reformation DID occur...

HMMMmmm...

229 posted on 12/29/2013 4:17:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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