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Why there will be war
Renew America ^ | 12-27-13 | Sylvia Thompson

Posted on 12/27/2013 7:54:53 PM PST by ReformationFan

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To: bramps
Using your misguided logic heterosexuality is also sin.

You are equating the indiscriminate lust of a single person to that of a married person lusting after someone else, which is adulterous.

doesn't being a heterosexual mean that you automatically lust after women (and therefore sin)?

Not when one cleaves to one's wife. The Torah teaches one to seek a wife and remain loyal to her, only. It also teaches not to engage in homosexuality. Christ's point in that teaching of which I quoted only part was that to remain focused in one's mind on anything forbidden by Torah was equivalent to committing the sin, anger to murder, lust with adultery. The point is obvious, so you had to take it out of context to attack it, which is specious.

Is an alcoholic who never touches alcohol a sinner simply because he is an alcoholic?

By Christ's teaching, while the alcoholic remains craving in his mind he is in sin. It may not be as bad as committing the act, but it is damaging nevertheless, which is indisputable. To focus upon evil even when not committing it is not doing something positive for the glory of the Lord, which is 'falling short,' or 'missing the mark.' Those latter two metaphors are from the fact that "sin" is a Semitic archery term describing an arrow that misses its target. The thought is therefore sinful.

Yet when the sinner turns back to Him (the teshuva of Noach), G_d forgives, His atonement covers the sinner, and He cleanses the sin. That's the pattern taught in Genesis 6-9.

Verse 8:21 And the Lord smelled a sweet savour (the Hebrew root for "sweet" is the same as for Noah's name, which literally means "causes to rest"); and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; (this is absolution for the sin of Adam in Gen. 3:17) for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done. 22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease. Your logic was not only misguided, it was deliberately twisted.
41 posted on 12/28/2013 6:21:51 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: ReformationFan

>>>The word “right” has been confused by this generation with the word “want”. <<<

“Right” used to mean something the government could not take from you. (Starting at least as far back as FDR) libs now take it to mean something the government must give you.


42 posted on 12/28/2013 6:31:55 AM PST by XEHRpa
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To: XEHRpa
“Right” used to mean something the government could not take from you. (Starting at least as far back as FDR) libs now take it to mean something the government must give you.

The conflation is easily recognized in the equation that is the "Four Freedoms."

Freedom of speech
Freedom of worship
Freedom from want
Freedom from fear

Note that the first two are affirmative individual expressions (freedom of...), while the latter two are supposedly benefits of collective action (freedom from...).
43 posted on 12/28/2013 6:48:40 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Very simple question:
What do these biblical quotes have in common:

Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” (NIV).

“Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.”

“If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” (NIV)

In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.” (NIV

The answer is that they all require an action to rise to the level of sin. Why, for example, did God not just leave it very simply at ‘nor homosexuals or thieves’? Why add the word offender? Why say men must ‘lie’ with other men or ‘commit’ indecent acts?

Rather than insult me, please educate me with a specific answer.

God chose the word ‘offender’ because...

God said ‘lie with’ because...

God said ‘commit acts’ because...

God DID NOT simply leave it at being a homosexual because...


44 posted on 12/28/2013 7:35:34 AM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: Steely Tom
I like the "many areas of activity" part.

It's so open-ended!

Anything could happen.

45 posted on 12/28/2013 8:17:52 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the greediest, most corrupt, incompetent and murderous force on earth.)
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To: vladimir998

Fr Jonathon Morris would be the usual suspect priest with a faint lisp and the lesbian sister.

Fr Gerald Murray is the other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-C5ZmKPlGE

I saw it, but yes the *article* seems to do disservice to catholic teaching.


46 posted on 12/28/2013 8:37:21 AM PST by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: Rome2000
Sending your kids to leftist indoctrination camps run by perverted communist scumbags (public skools) is a form of child abuse.

With the exception of one semester our eldest spent in kindergarten, we've home schooled ours since day one. When I watch the kids of friends and family, I know we made the right choice.

47 posted on 12/28/2013 9:23:03 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: bramps
What do these biblical quotes have in common:

The crimes you list are statutes, not determinants of sin, which is a broader distinction. They do not address covetousness, the original thought-crime on G_d's top ten list.

Strike three.

48 posted on 12/28/2013 10:52:25 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: ReformationFan

This Has all been predicted,Christ said he was persecuted,we. Christians are and will be persecuted as well.
There will be wars and rumors of wars,let not your heart be troubled,for all these things must come to pass,fear not,for I am with you always,even until the end of time


49 posted on 12/28/2013 12:05:43 PM PST by ballplayer
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