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To: annalex; ebb tide; BlatherNaut
Now we're fantasizing annalex?

And no, we don't need to agree for you to provide quotes from popes and saints that look even close to what Francis is asserting. The fact of the matter is that you just can't find such quotes. This man does not speak like other popes.

In your desperate need to defend his words, you continue in your blindness. I predict that at some point you will have to confront that because I am that sure that this guy is going to say much worse in the future. Mark my words.

241 posted on 12/30/2013 10:41:07 AM PST by piusv
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To: piusv
Now we're fantasizing annalex?

Not just now, from post one your understanding of the homily was fantastical compared to the text available. This is why showing you patristic examples that are "even close" is not possible.

It is, of course, possible that Pope Francis will do or say something I will disagree with; I have disagreed with all the popes since Vatican II on one thing or another. However attacks from the right on Pope Francis today are a product of hysteria; it is a reaction to his distinctive style rather than the substance. This is why he says one thing and you imagine another.

242 posted on 12/30/2013 11:12:34 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: piusv; ebb tide; BlatherNaut
Forgot to ping the rest of your trio.

As to the homily as actually said, here is St. Augustine

by this [Luke 2:35] is signified that Mary also, through whom was performed the mystery of the incarnation, looked with doubt and astonishment at the death of her Lord, seeing the Son of God so humbled as to come down even to death

Catena Aurea Luke 2


243 posted on 12/30/2013 11:29:52 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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