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To: rbmillerjr

I don’t see agreement with a majority as necessarily a virtue or confirmation of anything as Jesus said the road leading off into destruction was broad and full.

In the past I’ve devoted much space to “making my case” from the Scriptures and find that for the majority their beliefs will trump the Scriptures every time, for instance the use of the term “God the Son”, whereas neither Jesus nor anyone else ever referred to Him as “God the Son” but time after time as “Son of God”, quite a different thing.

“Full God”? Jesus himself hakes the case that in every way, power, authority, knowledge, he is inferior to and subordinate to his father but his simple Scriptural teaching will be blandly dismissed with the argument that was only while Jesus was at the same time “full human”.

Of course Jesus made no such distinction so it must be a “mystery”,

So let those who attempt to turn the Scriptures up-side-down, “God the Son” vs. “Son of God” make their case against the Scriptures. I’ll be happy to examine the Scriptures with them one Scripture at a time.


346 posted on 12/25/2013 2:51:10 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change; redleghunter; CynicalBear; daniel1212; boatbums; metmom; Iscool
In the past I’ve devoted much space to “making my case” from the Scriptures and find that for the majority their beliefs will trump the Scriptures every time, for instance the use of the term “God the Son”, whereas neither Jesus nor anyone else ever referred to Him as “God the Son” but time after time as “Son of God”, quite a different thing.

You have overlooked a major point!

Jesus Christ is not a son of God in the same sense as others. He is the ONLY-BEGOTTEN Son of God, as we read in John 1:14, 1:18, 3:16, 3:18, and 1 John 4:9. The Greek is monogenes, which is mono (one) and genes (kind). Jesus is one of a kind, the UNIQUE Son of God, deity from deity.

350 posted on 12/25/2013 6:10:51 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: count-your-change

“argument with a majority”

False use of that fallacy. The point is that ALL Christians, except for a few heretics that were ostracized and booted from Christianity...believed in Jesus as full man and full God.

“Only God can send the Holy Spirit....The Holy Spirit is referred to in Scripture as both the Spirit of the Father (Mt 10:20, Rom 8:10-11, and as the Spirit of the Son (Rom 8:9, Gal 4:6, Phil 1:19, 1 Pt 1:11). Statements saying that the Spirit is “of” the other two Persons of the Trinity indicate that his Person is tightly bound up with and originates from them (just as the Son is the Son “of” the Father). “


354 posted on 12/25/2013 6:45:09 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Ted Cruz...2016-24 ...A New Conservative Era)
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To: count-your-change; rbmillerjr; redleghunter
>>I’ll be happy to examine the Scriptures with them one Scripture at a time.<<

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

358 posted on 12/25/2013 7:07:21 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: count-your-change

I’ll be happy to examine the Scriptures with them one Scripture at a time.
***Then I suggest you get started.

Did Jesus Claim to be God?
http://knowwhatyoubelieve.com/index.php ^ | 2013 | Richard Helsby

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3104583/posts
Posted on Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:14:49 AM PST by Kevmo


484 posted on 12/25/2013 8:45:58 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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