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Can We Lose Our Salvation?
Tim Staples' Blog ^ | October 5, 2013 | Tim Staples

Posted on 12/21/2013 11:13:29 AM PST by GonzoII

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To: liberty or death

“What more do we have to offer?”

To presume that we do or must have something more to offer is blasphemy, saying that the sacrificial death of Christ, the act of atonement He performed, is inadequate, the clear Word of God to the contrary notwithstanding.


21 posted on 12/21/2013 12:16:03 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: RaceBannon; Religion Moderator

Please don’t spam me, dude...


22 posted on 12/21/2013 12:16:46 PM PST by GonzoII (Ted Cruz/Susana Martinez 2016)
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To: GonzoII

Yes. Once you reject it and go back to your sinning ways


23 posted on 12/21/2013 12:18:30 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GonzoII
If it's Tim Staples, it has to be good.™

8-)

24 posted on 12/21/2013 12:19:02 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: GonzoII
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On Infant Baptism and the Complete Gratuity of Salvation
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The Question of Universal Salvation: Will All Be Saved?
"There Can Be No Rupture in Salvation History" [Benedict XVI to Jewish Community in Germany]
The Catholic Teaching on Salvation by Faith Alone (Catholic / Orthodox Caucus)
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On Being Sober and Serious in Seeking Salvation
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Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Knowledge of Salvation
A note from Roy Schoeman... (author of 'Salvation is from the Jews')
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Salvation - Are You Saved?
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25 posted on 12/21/2013 12:25:24 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
"If it's Tim Staples, it has to be good.™"

Thanks, Fats..uhh..I mean, Tom.

26 posted on 12/21/2013 12:25:34 PM PST by GonzoII (Ted Cruz/Susana Martinez 2016)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
These scriptures form an impenetrable wall in which you cannot pass.

Is that in the Bible?

27 posted on 12/21/2013 12:25:53 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“Is that in the Bible?”


Dunno, does your Bible include the verses I quoted? Don’t troll me. Talk to me straight and honestly.


28 posted on 12/21/2013 12:28:54 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: GonzoII

No you cannot, once saved always saved but you can lose fellowship with the lORD


29 posted on 12/21/2013 12:29:47 PM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: pax_et_bonum

No. It is NOT the t.v. remote control.

And God is not an (~gasp!) Indian-giver.

HOWEVER, we have the free will to ACCEPT salvation through the work of Jesus Christ AND also to REJECT it at ANY time.

God doesn’t play “gotcha!” with us. We can walk in and we can walk out, but would be a fearful thing to feel the door hit yer backside after doing so.


30 posted on 12/21/2013 12:30:57 PM PST by joethedrummer
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To: GonzoII
"Most “eternally secure” Protestants with whom I have spoken about these verses of Scripture end up acknowledging their case to be weak from the text alone. But when cornered, I have found almost invariably they attempt to turn the tables on me by claiming I prove too much as a Catholic."

The author needs to quit visiting with the "setup" Protestants who only meet his preconceived ideas. But, this is fairly common Romanist practice. Start with a straw man, then beat the stuffings out of him. Perhaps a good lesson in hermeneutics would cure his wayward soul...if God allows.

31 posted on 12/21/2013 12:32:28 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: JamesA

oh please. So if Stalin and Hitler were once saved its okay to kill millions, rape thousands?

no, it’s not. You can lose your salvation when you do things like that, you are choosing to surrender it


32 posted on 12/21/2013 12:32:44 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Gamecock; James C. Bennett; HarleyD; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy
Since the above takes pot shots at Calvinists you should know that once saved always saved is not a tenant of the Reformed faith.

You guys are probably tough enough to handle it. :-)

I am a firm believer in once saved always saved. How does this differ from the Reformed view on Irresistible Grace and Preservation of Saints?

33 posted on 12/21/2013 12:33:47 PM PST by wmfights
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To: GonzoII

Tim Staples must be a convert.

He knows how to take the scenic tour through all the points, curves, mountains and valleys of protestant directions through Bible Alone.

It’s hardly a fair fight.

Without understanding fully the sign posts of the Old Testament and absent the oral Tradition of the Early Fathers guided by the Holy Spirit, it is a natural progression to splinter from the early faith, its practices and original understanding. Certainly it explains the thousands of spin offs from the protestant denominations of disparate opinions.

Thanks, Tim.


34 posted on 12/21/2013 12:42:12 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: DouglasKC

The doctrine that you can lose your salvation can be likened to playing Russian roulette between heaven and hell.

So the Lord is an Indian giver?

“I give you eternal life......if you can keep it”.

If I didn’t and COULDN’T earn it, then how can I possibly KEEP it?

Quoting the ‘party line’ about the ‘blank check’ is ludicrous. I do not strive to live a holy life to GET SAVED, I strive to do so because I AM Saved.

Without passing judgement, as that is not mine to do, one can question a ‘believers’ professed salvation when there is no fruit: holy living, thirst for Gods Word, church attendance, and of course good works to give God glory.


35 posted on 12/21/2013 12:42:23 PM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: Salvation

>>OSAS is a false doctrine. A person can think they are saved and disobey

I don’t completely not believe in OSAS. But, the problem with it is that people think (and are told) that a 10 second prayer is all you need and then you can go back to your same old life.


36 posted on 12/21/2013 12:47:24 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: RaceBannon

Bluster much?

Got special privilege from Jim and John?

You just killed a perfectly good thread, highjacked it to bloviate in a show of domination by monopolising space on an FR thread.

Happy now?


37 posted on 12/21/2013 12:51:19 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: GonzoII
No. "No one can ever pluck those that my Father has given me…"

Only the Father knows for sure but I don't believe it and don't plan on losing any sleep over what I believe is a promise from the Lord.

38 posted on 12/21/2013 12:59:39 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: RoadGumby
So the Lord is an Indian giver?

Nope, but we can give it back. We can reject it. Christ isn't an ogre who will force it on us...

39 posted on 12/21/2013 1:02:25 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Good reply. Care to address the rest of my post?


40 posted on 12/21/2013 1:14:01 PM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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