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To: boatbums
"For behold THIS LIFE is the time for men to prepare to meet God...do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life...then cometh the night of darkness wherein THERE CAN BE NO LABOR PERFORMED."

"How do you rectify this contradiction Storm Prepper? Are you in the position to nullify the Mormon scripture like y'all do for the Divine Bible?"

There is no contradiction at all. Alma is talking about procrastinating your repentance. People that know the law and have not committed to following it. He's not talking about people who have never received it before.

Alma is also not teaching lesson on the specifics of the eternities. Again, he's talking about repentance. This is why you need all scripture, not just a piece of it.

If you want to try to actually understand the eternities you have to look at D&C 76

D&C 76:
11 We, Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, being ain the Spirit on the sixteenth day of February, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty-two—

12 By the power of the aSpirit our beyes were opened and our understandings were enlightened, so as to see and understand the things of God—

20 And we beheld the glory of the Son, on the bright hand of the Father, and received of his fulness;

21 And saw the holy angels, and them who are sanctified before his throne, worshiping God, and the Lamb, who worship him forever and ever.

22 And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives!

72 Behold, these are they who died without law;

73 And also they who are the spirits of men kept in prison, whom the Son visited, and preached the gospel unto them, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh;

74 Who received not the testimony of Jesus in the flesh, but afterwards received it.

75 These are they who are honorable men of the earth, who were blinded by the craftiness of men.

79 These are they who are not valiant in the testimony of Jesus; wherefore, they obtain not the crown over the kingdom of our God.


You don't really have anything like this level of understanding do you? hmmm...

Here's another you seriously consider...words of Jesus Himself.
D&C 19: 15 Therefore I command you to repent—repent, lest I smite you by the rod of my mouth, and by my wrath, and by my anger, and your sufferings be sore—how sore you know not, how exquisite you know not, yea, how hard to bear you know not.

16 For behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent;

17 But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I;

18 Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit—and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink—


Some good news for me btw, we broke ground last month on a new Church building in my area.It's just up the street from my house. We are very happy. And it was announced that a new Temple is being built just 7 miles away from my house. We're very excited about that for sure.


313 posted on 12/17/2013 5:19:08 PM PST by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper; Colofornian; Elsie
There is no contradiction at all. Alma is talking about procrastinating your repentance. People that know the law and have not committed to following it. He's not talking about people who have never received it before.

The contradiction was regarding the doctrine you claimed was one of THE most important works Mormonism's god say you must do - be baptized for those who didn't get the message in their earthly life and that there would be "preaching" to those lost souls who died so that they get a "second chance". According to this Alma statement, your own scripture says, "For behold THIS LIFE is the time for men to prepare to meet God...do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life...then cometh the night of darkness wherein THERE CAN BE NO LABOR PERFORMED." Sure it is speaking of procrastinating repentance, but according to you, they STILL will get another chance to repent in the afterlife. I realize it is difficult for someone who is not uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit to keep their theology all straight so that they don't mess up something they say somewhere else. This is but one example.

I understand the "eternities" as the Bible teaches them. Your challenge of understanding the "levels" like your religion imagines them do not intrigue me in the least. Jesus said that we are sanctified (set apart) by the truth and that God's word is the truth. You have no way to confirm that what your religion's founders have declared is also God's word is actually His word. God's word is TRUTH and His truth sets us apart from the world. Your scriptures go against the Bible and that is why I KNOW they are not from God. Like I have said many times already, if you cannot prove your doctrines by the Bible, then quoting your other so-called scriptures will be ignored.

315 posted on 12/18/2013 4:16:45 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: StormPrepper

You ignore what you cannot spin away...


316 posted on 12/19/2013 9:20:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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