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Ultimately It Is Christ Who Will Judge Us
http://www.dfwcatholic.org/ultimately-it-is-christ-who-will-judge-us-74235/.html ^ | November 23, 2013 | Msgr John Kasza

Posted on 11/23/2013 9:21:30 AM PST by NKP_Vet

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To: WVKayaker

“Be careful of the spirit and test it closely.”

Yes, these are very wise words. I have gone through many experiences with learning discernment in the school of hard knocks. ( my class colors are black & blue)

There are many impostors, imitators and tormentors around us and logic alone will not reveal them. The scriptures are very accurate on this topic.


41 posted on 11/24/2013 2:54:17 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired
My comment comes from my own experiences.

Your experience means squat if it can't be backed up with or supported from Scripture.

Joseph Smith has personal experiences as well.

Satan can appear as an angel of light. If you're relying on *feelings* and *experience*, as your measure of truth, the you WILL end up being deceived and end up messing with the demonic, which it sounds like you already are.

*frequencies*

Unadulterated hogwash.

42 posted on 11/24/2013 5:18:20 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: tired&retired; WVKayaker
I never said I was special...

And WVKayaker didn't say you were special. He said God didn't give special powers to anyone.

You and nobody else can know *HOW* Jesus and His apostles did anything except that it was through the power of the Holy Spirit and nobody can tell HOW that works because God doesn't tell us.

Any extra-biblical revelation you have received in regard to this is from Satan and is demonic if it doesn't line up with Scripture.

And if it does line up with Scripture, you didn't need extra-Biblical revelation to know it so your experience is questionable at best.

43 posted on 11/24/2013 5:22:33 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

Odd thing ....... many of your words are identical to those spoken by the Pharisees against Jesus and the things He did. You may go back and read Jesus’ replies to them as they would be my words to you.


44 posted on 11/24/2013 6:05:56 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired
LOL!!!

Nice try.

Experience (and tradition) NEVER trumps Scripture.

So point us to Bible verses about frequencies and they work again....

In post 34 you said.... Love acts as a laser beam, transmuting all lower frequency consciousness. It is as though the fire within radiates outward, burning all low frequency energy approaching just as a bug flying into a bug zapper. Evil is afraid that it will kill them.

And you know that evil fears that that love acting as a laser beam will kill it just how? How did you come across that knowledge? Cause it sure isn't in Scripture anywhere.

How do you know our soul *expands* as it grows? Chapter and verse please.....

45 posted on 11/24/2013 10:46:41 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom; tired&retired
Love acts as a laser beam, transmuting all lower frequency consciousness. It is as though the fire within radiates outward, burning all low frequency energy approaching just as a bug flying into a bug zapper. Evil is afraid that it will kill them. -TT

... How did you come across that knowledge? - MM

LOL...


46 posted on 11/24/2013 4:55:35 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Because nothing says "rugged individualism" like heavy-handed big government.../sarc" -Sarah Palin)
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To: WVKayaker

About as good a guess as any.


47 posted on 11/24/2013 5:39:07 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: tired&retired
**Only God can forgive us and declare us righteous in His sight.”** So true. Here are the words of absolution that proves that God forgives Catholics in the Sacrament of Penance -- Confession.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

 

1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:

 

God, the Father of mercies,
through the death and the resurrection of his Son
has reconciled the world to himself
and sent the Holy Spirit among us
for the forgiveness of sins;
through the ministry of the Church
may God give you pardon and peace,
and I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

 


48 posted on 11/24/2013 5:54:46 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

So true, So true....

Jesus always claimed that it was not He but His Father working through Him doing the work


49 posted on 11/25/2013 4:12:21 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: WVKayaker

“How did you come across that knowledge? - MM”

Ever since I died and returned here I can see the Holy Spirit as a physical tangible real object, not just a theoretical manifestation. When you see it, you observe how it works. I can cite scriptures stating what I am saying, but have to need to.

Those who seek will find the answers.


50 posted on 11/25/2013 4:16:47 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired
"Holy Spirit as a physical tangible real object, not just a theoretical manifestation. When you see it, you observe how it works. I can cite scriptures stating what I am saying, but have to need to."

When anyone talks of the Holy Spirit as "it" or an "object" it begins to sound like...

Daniel 11:38 "But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour..."

rather...

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things..."

"I can cite scriptures stating what I am saying, but have to need to."

Would you?

51 posted on 11/25/2013 4:33:35 AM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: metmom

Your skepticism is good. Never let go of it as it is the foundation of discernment. Never surrender your authority to another human being. Share it, but do not surrender it. As any authority you have surrendered to others is not available for you to surrender to God. God likes a flat organizational chart. Everyone is to have their own direct connection to the Boss through His Son.

Allow me to add to that, be careful of the legalistic interpretations of scriptures that are black & white. Usually such thinking arises from listening to one pastor or a closed group who cannot maintain an ego identity while holding on to the possibility that they are not correct. That is why I previously referred to the Pharisees’ behavior with Jesus.

Remember what Jesus said,”In order to know they Father you must go within. Read the Bible as it is the word of God. But meditate and pray for Divine inspiration and you will be guided through the learning process experientially rather than theoretically.

One of the toughest lessons I am learning(it’s a continuous process) is sorting truth from non truth. Thankfully, by seeing the connection with the Holy Spirit when a pastor is preaching, or not seeing it in many, I have been able to sort messages based upon true source. I have observed many pastors in fundamentalist churches using stage hypnosis techniques to create a horizontal surrender of will to themselves rather than a guiding of people within to a relationship with God. Very sad, but true.

Even when you go within in search of thy Father, there are many impostors seeking to divert you from your path. You must constantly be on guard and focus on God, using the Bible as your road-map and operating manual. Thankfully, the impostors cannot imitate the feeling of Love that radiates from God, as that is the best tool of discernment.

Just as Jesus foretold in the parable of the tares in the wheat, we are the good seeds planted here on earth, waiting to awaken and grow in spite of the weeds that were planted among us while we were sleeping. We are now in Springtime and people are waking up, just as Peter predicted when quoting Joel in Acts 2.


52 posted on 11/25/2013 4:41:23 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: mitch5501

“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things...”

So true, so true......

First, allow me to say that what I experience is not as a result of me desiring it or doing anything. It is in spite of me and only arrived when I gave up and totally surrendered. In many ways it is as much a curse as a blessing as it is very difficult to be in the environment of earthly attachment and stay connected. It is a constant battle within me. This is why Paul stated, if I must brag, allow me to brag of my faults. It is only through weakness that you find your strength. Experiencing the weakness is a tough ride.

Here are two of my learning experiences..

I entered a home near Philadelphia PA where the owner claimed there was an evil spirit that was trying to kill his daughter’s fiance’. I walked in and immediately felt his presence. The best way to describe an evil feeling is as though you are at a consciousness level where you are humming a happy tune and all of a sudden someone hits a base drum near you. You feel it. I went in to talk with the spirit and could not understand him as it was all gibberish. I went within and prayed which allowed me to go to a level above words where I could hear the spirit’s thoughts. (This is the Tower of Babel concept)also (this is the how each of the attendees at Pentecost heard Peter each in their own language). I turned to the owner of the house and explained that a friend of his oldest son was visiting from Italy and was killed in an auto accident. It was him. Ends up he was trying to kill his former best friend who stole his girlfriend, ironically the best friend was the homeowner’s daughter’s fiance’. It was relatively easy to redeem him and set him free so he could ascend. Divine Grace and Forgiveness is stronger than ever right now here on earth. Such work must be done through prayer. If I try to do it, it does not work. It is done through me.

Many years ago I had two spirits appear as the loving deceased grandparents of the woman I was working with. Their words were logical and fit, but a knot in my stomach said that something was wrong. All of a sudden the words came out of my mouth to the spirits “Do you believe that Jesus was born in the flesh?” The spirits responded to me, “We know Jesus.” In response the words came out of my mouth, “That was not the question.” and the previous question was repeated. In response, their blue eyes turned to black and then to red and their true nature came out. It was about a month later that I found the words that came out of my mouth were 1 John 4 which I had never read nor heard. Someone upstairs saved my sorry butt. It was the source of those words that radiated through me and protected me.

This is just the proverbial tip of the iceberg. I was not a Christian believer prior to my experiences. My experiences have proven the Bible to be the truth for me.


53 posted on 11/25/2013 5:17:27 AM PST by tired&retired
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