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To: Gamecock
"To move to Rome is not only to give up justification and, thus, assurance— even more so, it is to give up Christ."

Not so. For my wife and me, our Tiber swim took place 19 years ago to be with Him, not give Him up. The author cites two of the four classic Protestant barriers to Rome; the role of Mary and the authority of the pope. Those two, along with the role of the saints and the meaning of the Eucharist, are the primary obstacles. But once the last of these, the meaning of the Eucharist, was literally understood in terms of John Chapter 6, the swim became a necessity. It was no longer an option to stay with the "dog and pony show". We had to be with Jesus.

10 posted on 11/19/2013 8:47:56 AM PST by Reo (the 4th Estate is a 5th Column)
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To: Reo
the meaning of the Eucharist, was literally understood in terms of John Chapter 6

HMMMmmm...


John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


13 posted on 11/19/2013 8:52:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Reo
But once the last of these, the meaning of the Eucharist, was literally understood in terms of John Chapter 6, the swim became a necessity.

How do you reconcile the teaching of the Catholic church that the flesh gives life in light of Jesus comment in John 6 that It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

The SPIRIT gives life.

The flesh is no help at all.

So what, according to Catholicism, gives life? The Spirit, like Jesus said, or the flesh like the RCC says?

20 posted on 11/19/2013 9:48:13 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: Reo

“To move to Rome is not only to give up justification and, thus, assurance— even more so, it is to give up Christ.”

Maybe the stupiest comment I have ever read in my life.
Ever hear of the Eucharist? Should I educate you on what the earliest Church fathers said? No, forget it, I get tired of talking to a wall.


63 posted on 11/19/2013 4:51:06 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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