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To: SeekAndFind

“Well, that sounds like a system that would work for me here in the USA.”

It could, although marriage has more civil significance in the USA than Israel.

I tend to not understand the resistance of recognizing marriage a religious rite and minimizing its legal impact.

I mean, does the USA tax someone differently (or whatever) if they had a bris? Or were baptized?

Marriage a religious rite that has gotten confuddled civilly.

We should un-confuddle it and then the queers can’t screw it up.


14 posted on 11/14/2013 2:27:41 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

RE: Marriage a religious rite that has gotten confuddled civilly.

So, how does Israel “recognize” a marriage?

Let’s say we have a Jewish couple who are not particularly religious who were civilly married outside Israel and then went on to migrate to Israel, surely Israel will recognize that marriage ( or is it none of the Israeli government’s business who one calls his/her spouse?).

Also, lets say we have a Jewish couple in Israel who are NOT RELIGIOUS ( in fact, atheistic), who want to marry, where can they go if not be married civilly?


16 posted on 11/14/2013 2:33:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Not sure I get what gay marriage has to do with anything, other than the title. Marriage in Israel is controlled by the recognized religions. Typical in the Mideast, though most mideastern countries don't recognize 11 or 12 Christian denominations or Judaism. There is no such thing as secular marriage.

Should Israel adopt secular marriage like most of the west, so what. Two Reform Jews could get married, a Christian could marry a Jew or a Muslim, which doesn't necessarily mean they could all marry each other. Or someone of the same sex, like in the west, or their goat.

But I get it, there's Christians who don't like Israel (or Jews), Christians who do like Israel (the same sort of ill-conceived hermeneutic that had led evangelicals to back the wrong side in the Scopes decision per the author. Did I forget to mention the ill-educated boobs who were ridiculed by H.L. Mencken, their support of Zionism also showed them to be bad Christians, lousy stinking pro-Israel Evangelical Christians to be sure.

17 posted on 11/14/2013 2:39:03 PM PST by SJackson (if you want to test a manÂ’s character, give him power A Lincoln)
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To: Jewbacca
It could, although marriage has more civil significance in the USA than Israel. I tend to not understand the resistance of recognizing marriage a religious rite and minimizing its legal impact.

No sh*t, that's really what it's all about. The income tax impact can be significant, it's my understanding it's minimal in Israel. And then there's the estate tax, I forget, what are the estate taxes in Israel. Insurance is an issue too

I recall when the draft ended, the war protests subsided. I'm sure it was a coincidence. Were there no tax and insurance benefits in the US tax code, gay marriage would be a minor issue.

21 posted on 11/14/2013 2:48:36 PM PST by SJackson (if you want to test a manÂ’s character, give him power A Lincoln)
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To: Jewbacca

Half the churches in this country would perform gay marriages, how would that be “un-confuddled”?

Make it simple, marriage is between a man and a woman, period and recognized as such by society.


23 posted on 11/14/2013 2:52:26 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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