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What drove English and American anti-Catholicism? A fear that it threatened freedom
Catholic Herald ^ | November 12, 2013 | DANIEL HANNAN

Posted on 11/12/2013 3:47:47 PM PST by NYer

The US Declaration of Indepdence: Thomas Jefferson saw Catholicism as despotism

The US Declaration of Indepdence: Thomas Jefferson saw Catholicism as despotism

Foreign visitors are often bewildered, and occasionally disgusted, by the spectacle of Guy Fawkes Night. The English are not a notably religious people, yet here they are wallowing in what looks like a macabre orgy of anti-Catholicism.

In fact, of course, the event has transcended its sectarian origins. To the extent that participants are aware of any historical resonance at all, they believe they are celebrating parliamentary democracy – which needs protecting, these days, from the Treaty of Rome, not the Bishop of Rome. Fifth of November bonfires serve as a neat symbol for what has happened across the English-speaking world. A political culture that was once thought to be inseparable from Protestantism has transcended whatever denominationalties it had.

Guy Fawkes Night used to be popular in North America, especially in Massachusetts. We have excised that fact from our collective memory, as we have more generally the bellicose anti-Catholicism that powered the American Revolution. We tell ourselves that the argument was about “No taxation without representation” and, for some, it was. But while constitutional questions obsessed the pamphleteering classes whose words we read today, the masses were more exercised by the perceived threat of superstition and idolatry that had sparked their ancestors’ hegira across the Atlantic in the first place. They were horrified by the government’s decision, in 1774, to recognise the traditional rights of the Catholic Church in Quebec.

To many Nonconformists, it seemed that George III was sending the popish serpent after them into Eden. As the First Continental Congress put it in its resolutions: “The dominion of Canada is to be so extended that by their numbers daily swelling with Catholic emigrants from Europe, and by their devotion to Administration, so friendly to their religion, they might become formidable to us, and on occasion, be fit instruments in the hands of power, to reduce the ancient free Protestant Colonies to the same state of slavery with themselves.”

Puritans and Presbyterians saw Anglicanism, with its stately communions and surplices and altar rails, as more than half allied to Rome. There had been a furious reaction in the 1760s when the Archbishop of Canterbury sought to bring the colonists into the fold. Thomas Secker, who had been born a Dissenter, and had the heavy-handed zeal of a convert, had tried to set up an Anglican missionary church in, of all places, Cambridge, Massachusetts, capital of New England Congregationalism. He sought to strike down the Massachusetts Act, which allowed for Puritan missionary work among the Indians and, most unpopular of all, to create American bishops.

The ministry backed off, but trust was never recovered. As the great historian of religion in America, William Warren Sweet, put it: “Religious strife between the Church of England and the Dissenters furnished the mountain of combustible material for the great conflagration, while the dispute over stamp, tea and other taxes acted merely as the matches of ignition.”

John Adams is remembered today as a humane and decent man – which he was. We forget that he earnestly wondered: “Can a free government possibly exist with the Roman Catholic religion?” Thomas Jefferson’s stirring defences of liberty move us even now. Yet he was convinced that “in every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.”

Americans had, as so often, distilled to greater potency a tendency that was present throughout the English-speaking world: an inchoate but strong conviction that Catholicism threatened freedom. Daniel Defoe talked of “a hundred thousand country fellows prepared to fight to the death against Popery, without knowing whether it be a man or a horse”. Anti-Catholicism was not principally doctrinal: few people were much interested in whether you believed in priestly celibacy or praying for the souls of the dead. Rather, it was geopolitical.

The English-speaking peoples spent the better part of three centuries at war with Spain, France or both. The magisterial historian of the Stuarts, J P Kenyon, likened the atmosphere to that of the Cold War, at its height when he was writing. Just as western Communists, even the most patriotic among them, were seen as potential agents of a foreign power, and just as suspicion fell even upon mainstream socialists, so 17th-century Catholics were feared as fifth columnists, and even those High Church Anglicans whose rites and practices appeared too “Romish” were regarded as untrustworthy. The notion of Protestantism as a national identity, divorced from religious belief, now survives only in parts of Northern Ireland; but it was once common to the Anglosphere.

When telling the story of liberty in the Anglophone world in my new book, I found this much the hardest chapter to write. Being of Ulster Catholic extraction on one side and Scottish Presbyterian on the other, I am more alert to sectarianism than most British people, and I’ve always loathed it. But it is impossible to record the rise of the English-speaking peoples without understanding their world view. Notions of providence and destiny, of contracts and covenants, of being a chosen people, were central to the self-definition of English-speakers – especially those who settled across the oceans. Protestantism, in their minds, formed an alloy with freedom and property that could not be melted down into its component elements.

And here’s the almost miraculous thing: they ended up creating a uniquely individualist culture that endured when religious practice waned. Adams and Jefferson led the first state in the world based on true religious freedom (as opposed to toleration). From a spasm of sectarianism came, paradoxically, pluralism. And, once it had come, it held on. “I never met an English Catholic who did not value, as much as any Protestant, the free institutions of his country,” wrote an astonished Tocqueville.

Best of all, Anglosphere values proved transportable: they are why Bermuda is not Haiti, why Singapore is not Indonesia and why Hong Kong is not China. There’s a thought to cheer us, whatever our denomination, all as the orange sparks rise from the bonfires each year.



TOPICS: Catholic; History; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholicism; founders
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To: I-ambush

Maybe so, but it makes it rather difficult to swear to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution when your “infallible” religious leader says it’s against the will of God.

Like I said, I’m happy to put it behind us.


41 posted on 11/12/2013 5:07:22 PM PST by Hugin
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To: NYer
If our Founders were truly anti-Catholic wouldn't they have denied religious freedom for them?

But they didn't do that. Instead, they worked to put all religions into the free market, to rise or fall each on their own merits.

Our Founders put their own prejudices on the back burner and worked to have freedom of religion and not just mere tolerance.

Otherwise, we would never have had a Bill of Rights nor a Constitution designed to include all religions, including Catholic.

42 posted on 11/12/2013 5:08:32 PM PST by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Great cities like...New Orleans? Los Angeles?


43 posted on 11/12/2013 5:08:47 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: MarkBsnr

Only Massachusetts, Connecticut, and maybe New Hampshire(I’m too lazy to look it up) had Calvinist state religions. That is only 3. What you describe would be the 17th Century, the founders lived in the 18th Century as men of the Enlightenment.


44 posted on 11/12/2013 5:11:14 PM PST by gusty
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To: MarkBsnr

The colonies had issues with established religions, yes, just as European states did. The colonies may have been controlled by England and many had established the Church Of England, but others had not. Our colonists had varying origins and various religious beliefs. The Roman Catholic Church was undeniably a State Church before there ever was a Protestant State Church, however, and so it is the original State Church.


45 posted on 11/12/2013 5:16:54 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: gusty

The Glorious Revolution was nearly a century and a half after the break between England and Rome. Henry confiscated all the church properties and doled them out to his nobles. After that, no return to Catholicism was possible. Ask Mary. She spend her entire reign trying. There wasn’t anyone agitating for “constitution” during her reign either.


46 posted on 11/12/2013 5:17:39 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: gusty
Interesting thread including all the comments. As a Catholic Freeper, I really didn't now much of Guy Fawkes Night just a wikipedia link but also an interesting read.
47 posted on 11/12/2013 5:20:45 PM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: RegulatorCountry

I can’t think of a greater system of government than the one given to us by our Founding Fathers; forgive my cynicism, but I am sick to see it torn apart by the corruption in Washington. And I am deeply concerned that if the work of such geniuses can be confounded by human weakness, then no government of free men can survive.


48 posted on 11/12/2013 5:21:44 PM PST by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning.)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

Oh. k <—? missed that


49 posted on 11/12/2013 5:22:11 PM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: SeeSharp
The article was about why in the past history of the Anglosphere (UK, US, etc) there has been hostility toward the Catholic Church from the people and leadership of the English speaking world. The return of church land is irrelevant to the issue. The Glorious Revolution illustrates the point of the article to the tee.
50 posted on 11/12/2013 5:24:13 PM PST by gusty
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To: Dutchboy88
Could it have been that Catholicism is incorrect?

Yes, it's politically incorrect, dear DU visitor.

51 posted on 11/12/2013 5:25:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: pax_et_bonum

I grew up in a mixed family of Methodists, Baptists, and Catholics.


52 posted on 11/12/2013 5:25:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: gusty
Only Massachusetts, Connecticut, and maybe New Hampshire

Add to that list Plymouth Bay, New Haven, and New Jersey - though the first two didn't remain independent. I believe New Jersey was the last state to abolish it's established religion in the 1830's.

53 posted on 11/12/2013 5:26:25 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

I stated Calvinist state religion as you did in your post. New Jersey probably had a state religion, but it was not Calvinist. Anglican probably.The Dutch earlier did not have a state religion. Their churches operated with a lot of independence for the times. Plus they were pretty tucked up in Bergen County, the rest of the state was settled by the English. NJ though had a Calvinist educational institution that James Madison attended called the College of NJ, now Princeton. I would consider Plymouth Bay a part of Massachusetts, and New Haven is Connecticut.


54 posted on 11/12/2013 5:34:24 PM PST by gusty
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To: cripplecreek
The Bicentennial this year.
55 posted on 11/12/2013 5:39:18 PM PST by gusty
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To: gusty
I would consider Plymouth Bay a part of Massachusetts, and New Haven is Connecticut.

They were originally independently chartered Puritan colonies. They lost their charters in 1660 through a bit of trickery (and bribery) between Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Charles II.

56 posted on 11/12/2013 5:49:04 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: GreyFriar

You have remember Henry VIII want young wife in Anne Boylan so he made Bible reference that said Katherine of Aragon his wife of 20 years is not truth wife

Dont’ forget later on Pope was on house arrest under her nephew Emperor Charles of Spain and Holy Roman Empire later on

NO wonder that Pope going tick off that Emperor

How she related to Emperor Charles because he was son of Juana De Loca Crazy Queen of Flanders with Phillip the Fair

Juana went 5150 Britney Spears earlier in the years


57 posted on 11/12/2013 5:49:38 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: MarkBsnr
I thought that 11 out of the original 13 colonies had Calvinist state religions and drove Catholics, Baptists and Quakers out (or killed them).

Only the New England colonies did that sort of thing. As far as I know the only people actually executed for religious dissent were Quakers. Oliver Cromwell put a halt to local executions in New England in the 1650's after the execution of Mary Dyer (executed against his orders) and there were no executions of religious dissenters after that. During the Salem witch trials they were executing fellow Calvinists.

58 posted on 11/12/2013 5:51:02 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp
But still not one of the 13 original colonies. Going back to NJ, it originally was two colonies East Jersey and West Jersey, but in context of the 13, we only count it once, like Plymouth Bay and New Haven. Those Connecticut Puritans couldn't stay still and spilled over the Sound to become the original settlers of Long Island, NY, not the Dutch as most would think.
59 posted on 11/12/2013 5:56:38 PM PST by gusty
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To: SeeSharp

I owe you an apology, I thought you were the other guy. See what happens when you leave your reading glasses in the other room.


60 posted on 11/12/2013 6:01:10 PM PST by gusty
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