What drove English and American anti-Catholicism? A fear that it threatened freedom

Catholic Herald ^ | November 12, 2013 | DANIEL HANNAN

[metmom]

You noticed that too?

[smvoice]

It most certainly is. We see it here daily. I was just reading 2 Tim. 1:5, about the unfeigned faith of Timothy. That is what the Body of Christ does here daily. "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth SURE, having this SEAL, The Lord KNOWETH THEM THAT ARE HIS.." (2 TIm.2:19).

WE KNOW. HE KNOWS. That's all we need to sustain us through this battle. Amen.

[Usagi_yo]

Yea, I’ve run into them and their not Jesuits that’s for sure.

[Elsie]

What drove English and American anti-Catholicism?

It probably had something to do with the historical facts that caused the COUNTER reformation.

[Elsie]

So, set your head straight, you having faith in something that others do not, does not equal wrong or right for either side.

Is this statement equivalent to "All religions are equal"?

[Elsie]

Anti-catholicism was justified in the past, back in the days when Popes issued papal bulls calling for the oppression of ‘heretics’ and compelling adherents of the Catholic faith to turn against any government or ruler that was not Roman Catholic. It gave ideological support to the concept of monarchical absolutism and theocratic despotism.

Thank GOD that at least the Catholic DOCTRINE was being kept pure!

[Elsie]

There are some Catholics (and others) who want to pretend it never happened though, and portray all anti-Catholicism of the past as simple bigotry akin to racism.

Of the past?

[Elsie]

I see neither C nor P mentioned here:

 

 

 

Mayflower Compact

 

In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, defender of the Faith, etc.

Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the Northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents, solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic; for our better ordering, and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, 1620.

 

 

 

[Elsie]

Without Catholics, starting with Columbus, bringing Christianity to the New World, there would be no United States.

Or a bible to read.

[Elsie]

We Catholics feel the same way toward y’all.

Yeah; in the trenches. But just WAIT 'til the war is over!!

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I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!"

"Why shouldn't I?" he said.

 

I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"

He said, "Like what?"

 

I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?"

He said, "Religious."

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

He said, "Christian."

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

He said, "Protestant."

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

He said, "Baptist!"

 

I said,"Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of GOD or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

He said, "Baptist Church of GOD!"

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Original Baptist Church of GOD, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of GOD?"

He said,"Reformed Baptist Church of GOD!"

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1915?"

He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1915!"

 

I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off.

-- Emo Phillips

[Coleus]

Tragedy in Birmingham

Don't forget the Racist, Democrat US Senator who was an anti-Semite, Anti-Catholic, KKK member appointed to the scotus by FDR -- Hugo Black -- the biggest advocate of the separation of church (especially the Catholic Church) and state.

[Elsie]

All of the colonies had state religions, which were maintained, for the most part, into the 19th century.

Does UTAH have one?

I know that the folks that founded it WANTED one...

[Elsie]

Can’t we just put that, ahem, embarrassing fact behind us now?

[Elsie]

REAL Catholics, like the ones on FR, vote Republican.

REAL Mormons, like the ones on FR, vote for... "Who we got in the race THIS time?"

[Elsie]

Duh!

Aren’t ALL of us here?

[pax_et_bonum]

Yeah; in the trenches. But just WAIT ‘til the war is over!!

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What, exactly, do you mean by this?

[johngrace]

You Pinged me. Thank You. This is what I think of many of these threads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhPCCAQdtOE

[johngrace]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhPCCAQdtOE

[Iscool]

Today we Protestants mostly see Catholics as natural allies and assets in our fight to save America.

Not any more or less than anyone else...

Fact is, the vatican would love to see us go the way of the NWO as would the majority of Catholics (who voted for Obama)...

It's the conservative Catholics and conservative anyone who are our natural allies to save America...

And there doesn't seem to be enough of them...

[RugerMini14]

Please realize that the Catholics on this site are mostly conservative Republicans.

I understand that. But it doesn't change the fact that Catholics vote Rat by a significant margin. I wish it weren't true but facts are facts.

Catholics aren't lockstep socialists like blacks or American Jews. But they aren't far behind.