ignorance has nothing to so with it...
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Posted on 11/10/2013 10:01:37 AM PST by JosephJames
ignorance has nothing to so with it...
I wasn't the one whining about liberalism in the church and blaming it on Masons...
But so does God so that's not news...And all you have to do to prove is to read God's words in the scriptures...
I doubt it...They probably just realize it's a stupid law...
I see we agree. :)
Thousands of seminarians and priests left the seminary and the priesthood after VCII, not to mention the millions of lay people who interpreted VCII in their own way, in “THE SPIRIT OF VATICAN II”! A great number of so-called “Catholics” did not want to discover or understand the documents of VCII as these documents were written and thus ended up as so many religious leaders who use their natural charismas and gifts from God not to lead people to Jesus Who is substantially present in the Most Holy Eucharist, so as to facilitate much easier a loving, true, humble relationship with Jesus! “The Most Reverend Bishop Athanasius Schneider - “Vatican II Must be Clarified”.” (http://arsorandi.blogspot.it/2013/07/the-most-reverend-bishop-athanasius.html; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8iBeaGeuxw).
IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEEK THE TRUTH. People today have not been trained to go through the fatigue of thinking logically, to making the fine, but important distinctions as St. Thomas Aquinas tells us: “Rarely affirm, seldom deny, ALWAYS DISTINGUISH.” Thus many were not able to understand the deceptions of many who interpreted the documents of the Second Vatican Council erroneously in the so-called “spirit of Vatican II”!
"Jews" did what?
This entire thread is travesty. Started by at best/closest, some second-hand account of alleged testimony purportedly made by some anonymous/unidentified/unnamed alleged-to-be-some-actual-person, "French priest" with links going back to an original, primary web address now leading to "404" page not found (and any other remaining shreds concerning this being in Italian(!); leaving a long list of insinuation/accusation in it's unverified/not-well-sourced or founded wake, with information in the article impossible to verify and confirm, or refute and dismiss.
It's turned into a snipe-fest, all heat - no light, bite and devour among ourselves.
RM -- will you please ZOT this thread?
There's got to be a better way of bringing accusation or indictment against Masonry, if that is the aim.
So far, all this has done is bring about mass confusion.
The Vatican II documents weren’t just interpreted incorrectly.
Many Mormon rituals are identical to Masonic ritual.
People who meet in private, excluding others from admission, enter into agreements between themselves in how to direct worldly goods and services, are indeed identifiable as members of conspiracy.
The reason why their cause is satanic is manifest by their works being independent of faith in Christ. Human good and human evil have no value other than being good for nothingness by Divine Standards. They also are used as counterfeit substitutes for divinity when worshiping a false god.
They are Satanic, because they commit their thinking to a god other than God the Father through faith in Christ.
Masonry attracts many people from Christian cultures who seek to perform good works, but are still thinking and living in a worldly or carnal system, instead of God's Plan. They perform many human good works. Those human good works are parlayed into evil by the Adversary seeking to place his system of worldly and carnal works as a counterfeit substitute to God's Plan for good works through faith in Christ.
As the culture falls further away from Christian faith in Christ, so to does the Masonic system degenerate into promoting even more antiChristian activity.
There are many Masons who coming from a Christian culture, will describe themselves and even participate in Catholic traditions. They will describe themselves as Catholic (RCC, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, etc), but don't think through faith in Christ in their actions. They do conspire, but few know more about their organizations than those with whom they associate.
They focus many times upon performing good works, thinking they are building up rewards in heaven, thereby making God a debtor. They will ignore their evil they cause their fellow man and adversaries, by focusing on the good they are advancing in their fellow Masons.
Every Mason I have ever met will gladly and joyfully share their perspective of hospitality and goodwill, especially as they deny the workman his wage, steal their reward, and promote criminality.
So, you are a Freemason, right? What degree? Have you passed under the royal arch? If you read the oaths taken by various degrees, it’s clear that deceit in the service of defending a fellow mason is sworn to.
I don’t expect an honest answer from a Mason.
Well, there is, and it involves the Catholic Church wanting to put an end to what the Founding Fathers brought about.
Do they kill the Roman Catholic children at the Shriners Hospitals?
http://www.masonicinfo.com/shrinehosp.htm
Catholics cannot belong to the Masons, for the Masons hate the Catholic Church. It’s truly covered up at the beginning.
It might be good for you to pass this post on to those Catholics.
**I have other more pressing things to do than join a club that wears funny hats.**
LOL!
Where are you getting the idea that God hates Catholics?
Truly unbelievable nonsense.
Yes, I am. I have attained the highest degree in all of Masonry- that of third degree Master Mason. I have not joined the Royal Arch or any of the other concordant bodies.
>>I don’t expect an honest answer from a Mason.
Isn’t that a form of mind-reading which is prohibited on these forums?
That’s just simply false. The Masons don’t give two whits about the Catholic church or any other church body, for that matter. There are plenty of Catholic Masons. It’s the Catholic church that has a problem with the masons, not the other way around.
Perhaps it was different in Europe a couple of centuries ago, but certainly not today.
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