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To: metmom

Try reading the Bible for a change, starting with

“You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church”.

I will take the words over Christ himself and the early Church fathers any day of the week over any protestant “theologian”, who went not around for the first 1,500 years after Christ was born. End of story.


145 posted on 11/10/2013 9:55:47 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
“You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church”.

I will take the words over Christ himself and the early Church fathers any day of the week over any protestant “theologian”, who went not around for the first 1,500 years after Christ was born. End of story.

Sorry, that's what bible believers do...That's why we know the church wasn't built upon Peter...Jesus didn't say whay you claim he said...So you are not believing Jesus at all...

YOU are Peter, and upon THIS rock...

It DOES NOT say, YOU are Peter and upon YOU...
Nor, does it say THIS is Peter and upon HIM...

It DOES say that You are Petros, and upon this PETRA...

So again, sorry, your perverted understanding of language layout and perversion of Greek translation only means you are wrong, and deceptive...

Apparently it works for catechism believers and its sheep but it has no affect upon bible believers...

148 posted on 11/10/2013 10:24:50 AM PST by Iscool
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To: NKP_Vet
I will take the words over Christ himself ...

Good!


 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.


165 posted on 11/10/2013 4:13:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NKP_Vet
I will take the words over Christ himself and the early Church fathers...

Oh!!

You've added some unnecessary stuff I see...

166 posted on 11/10/2013 4:14:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NKP_Vet; Elsie

Interesting, isn’t it, that Peter himself says that CHRIST is the rock. Peter never makes that claim for himself.

I’m not the one who needs to read Scripture. Try it yourself for a change.

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1 Peter 2:4-8 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For it stands in Scripture:

“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone,
a cornerstone chosen and precious,
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”

So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe,

“The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”

and

“A stone of stumbling,
and a rock of offense.”

They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.


171 posted on 11/10/2013 4:39:42 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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