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To: dangus
I don’t even have a clue what you mean to reference by “The ‘they might obtain a better resurrection’ refers to all of the above mentioned.” Where in the references mentioned does anyone accept torture for the sake of God?

Within context again however highlighted:

32 And what more shall I say? For time will fail me if I tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets, 33 who by faith conquered kingdoms, performed acts of righteousness, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, from weakness were made strong, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight. 35 Women received back their dead by resurrection; and others were tortured, not accepting their release, so that they might obtain a better resurrection; 36 and others experienced mockings and scourgings, yes, also chains and imprisonment. 37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, they were tempted, they were put to death with the sword; they went about in sheepskins, in goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, ill-treated 38 (men of whom the world was not worthy), wandering in deserts and mountains and caves and holes in the ground.

96 posted on 10/29/2013 2:50:38 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

I missed this.

Are you seriously suggesting that any of the people you cite rejected release from torture, imprisonment and death because they knew they would be resurrected?

Sorry, but none elucidate the resurrection. They may, like David, has some spiritual, prophetic hope beyond hope that they will be returned to life if they do perish. But none confidently predict their own resurrection, much less reject release for it.

So once again, you’re stretching the Protestant canon to find something vaguely referential, whereas the Catholic/Greek/Apostolic records precisely what the New Testament refers to.


140 posted on 10/30/2013 12:18:11 PM PDT by dangus
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