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To: BlatherNaut

I have never believed that people should stay in an unhappy marriage just to stay in the Church.

I also do not believe that God meant man or woman to live alone the rest of their lives because they could not live in an unhappy marriage.

Many, Many, Catholics are living with women or men and going to communion now. Many are making up their own rules and attending Church anyway.

If a person married again after divorce and goes to confession and states he is living in what the Church calls an adulterous relationship, is he not blessed by the priest and his sin forgiven? Can he not then have communion the next morning and go right back to what he was doing?

Many will argue that at confession we promise to sin no more. I consider that a bad argument.
If it was a good argument we wouldn’t have to go to confession at all because we would sin no more..
No. Most people go to confession whenever they go and know in their mind that they will do the same things they went for the first time again as soon as the opportunity arises.

To me it is the greatest hyprocrisy to go to confession and say I will do it no more. We all know this and yet those pious will argue that I am wrong.

I see nothing wrong in people marrying again after a divorce. I have been married 50 years and will stay that way until death, but mine was a good marriage, if it had not been I would have moved on, and done what I thought right in my conscience.


26 posted on 10/22/2013 8:17:43 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Venturer
If a person married again after divorce and goes to confession and states he is living in what the Church calls an adulterous relationship, is he not blessed by the priest and his sin forgiven?

He has to show remorse for the sin he has committed. How can he do that and continue to live his sinful life?

44 posted on 10/22/2013 9:52:19 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Venturer

“I have never believed that people should stay in an unhappy marriage just to stay in the Church”.

They don’t have to be unhappily married, just don’t live together. That is yours and your spouse’s business. Go to communion and confession all you want and it’s perfectly fine. You didn’t get a divorce. The ones that are shacking up and still going to communion will have to answer to God in the end and he does not like someone breaking his Commandments.


46 posted on 10/22/2013 10:08:33 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Venturer

“If a person married again after divorce and goes to confession and states he is living in what the Church calls an adulterous relationship”.

You have to confess this sin to the Father and be sincere in your act of contrition and tell the Father that you WISH TO SIN NO MORE.

Going right back to the same sin is playing a game with God
and you are only fooling yourself.


52 posted on 10/22/2013 10:25:27 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Venturer

“If a person married again after divorce and goes to confession and states he is living in what the Church calls an adulterous relationship”.

You have to confess this sin to the Father and be sincere in your act of contrition and tell the Father that you WISH TO SIN NO MORE.

Going right back to the same sin is playing a game with God
and you are only fooling yourself.


56 posted on 10/22/2013 10:34:50 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Venturer
To me it is the greatest hyprocrisy to go to confession and say I will do it no more. We all know this and yet those pious will argue that I am wrong.

You're right that is hypocrisy however please don't conflate all sinful behaviors that way. IOW, the situation you described is indeed one of a hypocritical person, but simply because it's impossible for someone to say "I will sin no more" that doesn't mean that person shouldn't go to Confession.

Indeed, (again) contrary to popular opinion, there isn't a formulaic approach to Confession. Typically the pennitent says certain words and the priest does too, but the only important words are what the Church says the priest must say at the end. The pennitent is actually quite free to confess as he wishes. The "formula" is only a guide for the pennitent. He just needs to be sincere in his Confession (as others have said to you and you already point out)

So specifically, while some authorities say the pennitent should say "I promise (or pledge) to sin no more", as part of their act of Contrition, this phraseology is not required for Absolution. You are perfectly free to say, "I will try to sin no more".

Or, if this is not to your liking, then all one need do is pay attention to the phraseology immediately preceding the recommended phrase of "I promise to sin no more". Before that, not only comes the phrase "I will avoid all occasions of sin", but also, "With thy Grace...", meaning as long as one stays in the grace of God, willing to accept His strength as help, one actually will "sin no more".

But really, don't get too caught up on the words said. What is important is that one GOES to Confession and intend at the TIME, (at least) to not repeat a sin. That's what's important. Not some formulaic prayer.

64 posted on 10/22/2013 11:38:33 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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