To: armydoc
Paul described salvation as a rebirth, a change of heart from the old man to the new man. Continuing to sdin as before salvation is not salvation. Unless the saved perosn is fundamentally changed by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit there is no salvation. It is not a crap shoot. It is a total sacrifice of self to Christ’s redemption. In order for the new man to be born the old man must die.
8 posted on
10/20/2013 11:53:35 AM PDT by
Louis Foxwell
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To: Louis Foxwell
Paul described salvation as a rebirth, a change of heart from the old man to the new man. Continuing to sdin as before salvation is not salvation. Unless the saved perosn is fundamentally changed by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit there is no salvation. It is not a crap shoot. It is a total sacrifice of self to Christ’s redemption. In order for the new man to be born the old man must die.So, are you saying that, after salvation, one ceases to sin, and so remains "saved?" Or that one does NOT cease to sin, but is "saved" anyway?
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12 posted on
10/20/2013 11:57:10 AM PDT by
alexander_busek
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To: Louis Foxwell
Agree completely. Those chosen by God (the elect) for salvation must be born again and will be born again
300 posted on
10/20/2013 7:49:41 PM PDT by
armydoc
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