Posted on 10/19/2013 8:50:26 PM PDT by jodyel
Lighthouse Trails has watched in dismay over the past few years as Charles Stanleys In Touch magazine has made the decision to promote contemplative/emergent names. When our editors picked up a copy of the August 2013 issue and saw a feature article written by Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove, we decided to call In Touch Ministries to find out who was responsible for the content in the magazine. Sadly, the response we received from the editorial department at In Touch left us with a sinking feeling that the evangelical church has been seduced and there was no turning back.
Well talk about the phone call in a minute but first a look at Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove.
In June of 2011, Lighthouse Trails free lance writer Mike Stanwood wrote Contemplative Spirituality Lands on Charles Stanleys In Touch Magazine . . . Again. In this article, it was revealed that in the January 2011 In Touch magazine issue, Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove was featured in an article written by In Touch Managing Editor Cameron Lawrence. That article, titled The Craft of Stability: Discovering the Ancient Art of Staying Put, highlighted the intentional Christian community at the Rutba House (Wilson-Hartgroves home) and their daily prayer routine. The In Touch article stated that Rutba House is an evangelical community rooted in the Protestant tradition and that Wilson-Hartgrove is an ordained Baptist minister, yet it also reported that Rutbas community principles are borrowed from Benedictine monks and that all of their efforts are based on St. Benedicts rule of life.
In Stanwoods article, he points out that Wilson-Hartgrove is part of the New Monasticism movement within the emerging church. To help you understand just how serious this situation is with Charles Stanley and his ministry, read this following section of Stanwoods article:
Wilson-Hartgrove is most recently known for co-authoring Common Prayer: A Liturgy for Ordinary Radicals with new monastic activist Shane Claiborne. Other books he has authored may also fall into the emerging/contemplative category. For example, one such book called New Monasticism: What It Has to Say to Todays Church (1) has been endorsed by mystic proponents Brian McLaren, Phyllis Tickle, Tony Campolo, and Catholic priest and centering prayer advocate Richard Rohr. The mystics resonate with the new monasticism this is plain to see.
On the surface, the new monasticism may look OK with its many good works of helping the poor and the needy. But the underlying belief system does not line up with biblical doctrine; rather it is about establishing an all-inclusive kingdom of God on earth now where individual salvation is replaced with a community salvation for the whole world. Atonement has less emphasis on Jesus Christ as the only atonement for mans sins and instead becomes an at-one-ment where all of creation is being saved by coming together as one (and yes, seeing the divinity of man). This is the kind of atonement that McLaren, Tickle, and Rohr would resonate with.
It is important to see that they dont just resonate with the good works coming out of the new monasticism; born-again Christians have been performing good works by helping the poor and needy for centuries and continue to do so. While this new monasticism supposedly distinguishes itself by its good works, in reality it is mysticism and the foundational beliefs of mysticism (i.e., panentheism, kingdom now, etc) that distinguish it. And it is that element that Tickle, McLaren, and Rohr embrace.
Additional resources on Wilson-Hartgroves website include a DVD called Discovering Christian Classics: 5 Sessions in the Ancient Faith of Our Future, a five-week study with contemplative advocate Lauren F. Winner (Girl Meets God) for high school or adult formation. A description of this DVD states:
You will discover the meaning of conversion and prayer from the Desert Fathers and Mothers; how to love from the sermons of St. John Chrysostom; St. Benedicts Rule of Life and how it became one of the foundations of Western Christian spirituality; how to have an intimate relationship with God according to The Cloud of Unknowing; and what it means to pick up your cross in the Imitation of Christ by Thomas A. Kempis.
Another book Wilson-Hartgrove has authored, called The Wisdom of Stability: Rooting Faith in a Mobile Culture, refers readers to the wisdom of Lao-tzu, the desert monastics, Thomas Merton, Benedictine spirituality, panentheist and interspiritualist Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, and Benedictine nun Joan Chittister.
In a Beliefnet interview one year ago, Wilson-Hartgrove shared how we need the wisdom of those whove gone before us. This wisdom he is referring to comes not from the Bible, but from the contemplative Benedictines (who) taught us to start the day with common prayer.1
After seeing what is at the core of Wilson-Hartgroves spiritual wisdom, it is not surprising to learn that he recently made an appearance at the [very emergent] Wild Goose Festival .2 According to an article in the Christian Post, the Wild Goose Festival was a four-day revival camp in North Carolina featuring music, yoga, liberal talk and embracing of gays and lesbians.
The fact is, anyone who is drawn to Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, as Wilson-Hartgrove is, has got to be following a different spirit and another gospel or at the very least greatly deceived. Chardin, who is attributed to the term cosmic Christ, did not hide the fact in his writings that he believed, not in the Christ of the Bible, but a christ consciousness in every human being.
While we do not challenge Wilson-Hartgroves sincerity or concern for the poor and needy, we must challenge his consistent promotion of contemplative mystics and emergent leaders, and he certainly does not seem like a proper fit with In Touch Ministries, that is unless In Touch is going emerging. The reason we say this about Wilson-Hartgroves sincerity has to do with the phone call we had with two editors of the editorial staff of In Touch magazine on July 24, 2013. One of the editors we spoke with was Cameron Lawrence, the Editor in Chief (and also the one who wrote the 2011 In Touch article featuring Wilson-Hartgrove). Lawrence asked us if we had ever spoken with Wilson-Hartgrove personally, suggesting that he was a sincere man who lived out the Gospel by helping the needy. We answered him by stating that the issue at hand was not a private matter but rather a public issue because Wilson-Hartgrove is a public figure (books, conferences, articles, etc). We said that it did not matter what he might say in a private conversation, but it did matter what he was teaching others. And it mattered greatly that In Touch was promoting him.
When we spoke with Cameron Lawrence, we told him we wanted to know who was responsible for putting the article by Wilson-Hartgrove in the magazine to which he told us the entire editorial staff made the decision. We asked him if he would be interested in seeing some of our documentation to which he answered, I have been on the Lighthouse Trails website, and I didnt find it helpful. The other editor we spoke with, who wished to remain anonymous, said it sounded like we were on a witch hunt to which we responded, No, we are part of a Gospel-protection effort.
At times like this, it is difficult not to become discouraged by the lack of interest in Christian intelligentsia and leadership regarding the contemplative/emerging issue. What more can we say to show them what seems so obvious to ourselves and many other Bible believing contenders of the faith? A number of years ago, when the Be Still DVD (a contemplative infomercial) came out and we saw Charles Stanleys name in the credits as someone who supported the DVD, we contacted his ministry and spoke with a personal assistant. He accepted our offer for a free copy of A Time of Departing but said that Charles Stanley would be too busy to read it.
If the mystics whom Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove gravitates to are right, then Jesus words that He is the only Way to the Father are wrong. You cant have it both ways. The opposite view the contemplative is that God is in all things, including all people. This is what all mystics believe, across the board. And if that were true, then the need for a Savior would vanish, and there wouldnt be any need for one way to God because man is already indwelled with God and a part of God.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
Endnotes: 1. New Monasticism & The Emergent Church: FS Talks with Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove: http://blog.beliefnet.com/flunkingsainthood/2010/06/new-monasticism-the-emergent-church-fs-talks-with-jonathan-wilson-hartgrove.html.
2. Learn more about the Wild Goose Festival here: Left-Leaning Wild Goose Festival Draws Ire of Evangelicals
Candace, the Ethiopian official that Philip encountered, was sent back home without SOMEONE to administer the Eucharist to him; poor soul!
Now now...
He is just right and wants all of us to realize that; sooner or later.
Practice, Grasshopper: practice...
Why?
The Magisterium has it ALL explained; right?
But; who, in their right mind, would WANT to?
To be pestered, 24/7/365.2497685 with whiners wanting help with their requests, sure don't sound like a HEAVEN I'd want to BE in!
Mark 3:28-29
Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin
...you just MIGHT lose a little bit of the arrogance detected in the tone of your posts.
You must have me c confused with someone who did not study scripture on his own and found his way back into the Catholic Church.
Quite possibly.
I am laboring under the idea that ALL catholics accept what the “M” say.
John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
John 10:25-30 Jesus answered them, I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.
Ephesians 1:13-14 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Colossians 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
2 Corinthians 1:21-22 And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
2 Corinthians 5:4-8 For while we are still in this tent, we groan, being burdenednot that we would be unclothed, but that we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee. So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
Wonderful and another writer to add to the list.
Thanks,
jodyel
Sadly ALL Catholics do not accept the teachings of the Magisterium.
Just as there are Anglicans that do not accept all of the Westminster Confession, Baptist that Defy the SBC and TBC leadership by participating in Same sex Marriage ceremonies, etc....
Also I do not blindly accept the teachings of the Catholic Church. I have studied the doctrines and dogmatic teachings and found them to be true.
For me coming back into the Church was not an easy decision. It took over two years of intense study and scrutiny. I studied the scriptures on a daily basis, comparing them to the writings of Luther, Calvin, Zwingli. I also read Ludwig Ott's "Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma" and the CCC. I read the ECF's comparing all these to each other and made the informed choice that the Catholic Church was right.
So when I accept the teaching of the Magisterium, it is not blind it is based on careful study.
No, I do not but I do not need to read the writings of Catholicism to find the truth.
A lot of what is in Catholic writings is the mystical stuff that winds up in mainstream evangelical Christianity and opens the door to seducing and lying spirits. I have already seen it on someone on this board and it terrifies me for them...but they will not listen so only prayer and God can lead them out of it.
No one decides for me what I believe..only the Spirit. And I think many here think I do not have a strong faith or belief because I am not debating deep theology or Scripture like others do, but I have no need to. My faith is rock solid and nothing can shake it. I would not be here if it were not.
When all you have had is the Lord lifting you up all your life and showing you His true character and nature, working things out for your good and His glory, you don’t need debate. I have the Lord and He has me...just as sure as I am sitting here.
Perhaps all this other stuff is what is needed in witnessing and I am naive to think that just telling others about how He works in my life and that I do know error when I see it are not enough. But I have also seen how quoting Scripture to those here in error does not work. As someone said, nobody is being converted here. And that is what I want to see...not just this endless debate between denominations and such.
Yes, I think naive best describes me when it comes to telling others about my faith....like a child who the grownups don’t listen to. I thank God He listens to me and thinks what I have to say is important. Imagine the Almighty God of the universe caring about what I think and wanting relationship and fellowship with me.
This is what I want and have been trying to convey since I started, but it is childlike and simple and not nearly what most adults are interested in.
Precisely why are you rustling things up?
***Ill rustle up some info and post here when I can.***
Not projecting far enough, I see. lol
You made me teary, metmom.
Lovely, and thanks.
Perhaps you should humble yourself and come before the Lord as a small child and not an arrogant Catholic who really knows nothing of the Lord whatsoever, but is filled with head knowledge of Scripture and nothing of its heart knowledge.
No one need be in Catholicism or any other religion to become a saint in God’s eyes...that happens automatically when one accepts Christ as Savior.
“An ignorant heathen can, perhaps be saved through ignorance and good works alone, but not someone bashing the Holy Church of God daily on the Internet.”
In this single sentence, you just showed the entire world the folly of Catholicism and why believers warn against it.
You need a large dose of humility, annalex.
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