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There is something strange going on in the Vatican
LifeSiteNews ^ | Mon Oct 07, 2013 | Hilary White, Rome Correspondent

Posted on 10/09/2013 8:25:55 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

There is something strange going on in the Vatican

by Hilary White, Rome Correspondent



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: papacy; pope; popefrancis; vatican
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To: livius
Proselytism is what the Jehovah’s Witnesses do

Its also the vast majority of postings on the Religion Forum from certain sectors.

21 posted on 10/09/2013 8:57:51 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Thank you for the article. Interesting.


22 posted on 10/09/2013 8:59:33 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

ping


23 posted on 10/09/2013 9:03:29 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

People have the same misgivings about the Christ, who sits down and eats with sinners. This Pope has been forthcoming about the need for mercy and absolution in a sick world, and the world hates him for it. It is better to let the Pope speak and let his official press remain silent. Let his words speak for themselves, and if you have doubts or misgivings, ask the Pope to explain further in his own words. From what I’ve read so far - in his own words - the Pope speaks very much in accord with the catholic Faith.


24 posted on 10/09/2013 9:04:34 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: pgkdan
...many of his comments border on heresy...

It seems to me that this pope is saying exactly what he wants to say and his words are being interpretted exactly as he wants them interpretted.

It is difficult to escape this conclusion.

If Pope Benedict XVI were not still alive, most of us would not even be entertaining these thoughts.

But the idea of an anti-pope in our time haunts our fears, and has foundation in Catholic prophecy.

25 posted on 10/09/2013 9:05:27 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Well there is something strange in the White House


26 posted on 10/09/2013 9:06:16 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: Brian Kopp DPM; miele man

Thank you for posting this. Bump for later consideration and reflection.


27 posted on 10/09/2013 9:06:48 AM PDT by miele man
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.


28 posted on 10/09/2013 9:06:51 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I disagree. So do many bright well educated mainstream Catholics who are much smarter than I and far better educated, whose opinions I highly regard.
29 posted on 10/09/2013 9:07:13 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

The Bible says that in the end times most professed believers would be led astray.

I don’t know what an “anti-Pope” is since I don’t follow earthly Gods.


30 posted on 10/09/2013 9:07:29 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: cuban leaf

God had nothing to do with it.


31 posted on 10/09/2013 9:10:50 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Ping for later


32 posted on 10/09/2013 9:11:56 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
I want BXVI back.
*smiles* He certainly was easier to understand, as is noted in your quoted commentary.

I think in doing what he "wants" to do, rather than going with the program as is expected by the multitudes, Pope Francis is being selfish. But who knows? Maybe there's a rhyme and reason for it all; I do like his emphasis on prayer.
33 posted on 10/09/2013 9:12:10 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: GeronL

I don’t believe in earthly “gods” either. The bible does talk about this one world religion/government coming our way. I can’t help but think we’re being setup for it. It’s time more than ever to put our focus into our personal relationship with Jesus Christ and put our faith in him and trust in him. God’s plans will come to pass, and we can take comfort in that.


34 posted on 10/09/2013 9:14:47 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: livius
Only God, working through Jesus Christ, converts people

Is there ONE YHvH ??

Are there two or three gods ??

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
35 posted on 10/09/2013 9:16:16 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: mlizzy
Lots of people are "nervous" right now.

Reader Feedback: “I can’t read just anything about the Church anymore…”

I have been getting notes by email along these lines:

I just wanted to send a quick thank you for the helpful posts lately. I have been nervous since Pope Benedict left and I worry about what this all means for the future of my diocese … when it is time for a new Bishop. I had thought things would improve around here (more reverent liturgy and less liberal style social justice) but now I’m not so sure it will really change any time soon. There are some bright spots, though, and ways I can help if I look for them.

I can’t read just anything about the Church anymore but I still read your blog because you are hopeful and realistic. Thank you for the encouragement you give so many people.

You are welcome!

I suspect that a lot of people out there are feeling and thinking along the same lines.  Many people are nervous.  That is to be expected.

Be involved and help work for good changes.   It will be like pushing a huge rock up a hill. It will also, in the long run, result in benefits for many.


36 posted on 10/09/2013 9:18:34 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Bulwyf

I totally agree with that.

There is no one between you and Jesus/God and anyone that pretends there is and that you cannot get there without their assistance they are not true Christians.


37 posted on 10/09/2013 9:18:57 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Pope Francis seems to be performing as a one man act, scorning both the Vatican’s traditional papal apartments and its bureaucracy while likely aiming at major changes in its personnel and operations. I wonder if at the upcoming general synod, Pope Francis intends to curtail key aspects of the papacy as to its pomp and governance powers.


38 posted on 10/09/2013 9:21:55 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
Dear Brian,

“It seems to me that this pope is saying exactly what he wants to say and his words are being interpretted exactly as he wants them interpreted.”

Actually, I don't believe this is true. I could be wrong, but my sense is that Pope Franky is just intellectually sloppy. He blurts out whatever comes to his fertile mind, and doesn't look back.

When I look at remarks that I assume are prepared beforehand (such as his remarks during his audiences, like what one sees in this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3076661/posts ), it's pretty good stuff.

It's when he “grabs the mike” and starts ad libbing that we see,... unusual results.

I could speculate on the reasons for this, but I think I won't for now. But what is evident to me is that he really has no idea how his off-the-cuff remarks will be interpreted. In fact, I'm not sure he has much of an idea of what he's going to actually say much before he says it.

I think we should take his press spokesman's words to heart, that he is speaking casually, informally, that these are not magisterial pronouncements. Essentially, they're bull sessions. When I used to bowl with the Knights of Columbus, we had these sorts of conversations all the time. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with them.

The primary difference is that none of us bowlers thought that our casual conversations should have been published in the world press.

However, as I noted on another thread, the pope thinks that most clergy are narcissists. Who am I to argue?


sitetest

39 posted on 10/09/2013 9:23:05 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Bulwyf

God had nothing to do with it.


Zactly. It’s why I did not capitalize the word. ;-)


40 posted on 10/09/2013 9:29:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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