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To: Elsie
As intelligent as you claim to be, history does NOT record the fact that Catholicism invented the Counter REVOLT to try to correct some of it's excesses.

Luther could not "reform"...he could only revolt

the Catholic church, on the other hane could indeed "reform" and in some cases she did....reformation comes from within, revolution is reserved for those who leave the parent institution and decide to start their own....

see:American revolution...didn't change England one iota...just launched a different version of government...

1,935 posted on 10/13/2013 8:03:49 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: terycarl; Elsie
see:American revolution...didn't change England one iota...just launched a different version of government...

Didn't change England one iota??? Tell me, do they now have elections in the UK? Does the king or queen still hold sovereign power over all the kingdom? I'd say the American revolution changed the entire WORLD!

What Luther did - and he was hardly alone in the Reformation (which began before he was even born) - DID cause changes in the RCC. On many things they admitted error and evolved to what it is today. The Pope at the time and his successor were too proud to give credit to the Reformers for their efforts to restore the Christian faith as it was originally followed by the early church. They, instead, persecuted and hunted down for slaughter those who DARED rise up to defend the orthodox Christian faith. I'd say Catholics should be saying THANK YOU to the Reformation! They should also be actively participating in continuing to reform their church until Christ returns to be more like that which the Apostles through the Holy Spirit began.

1,947 posted on 10/13/2013 11:56:09 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: terycarl
didn't change England one iota...

HA ha...

I guess Luther didn't 'change' the evils of the RCC; either.

1,959 posted on 10/14/2013 3:19:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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