Posted on 09/30/2013 11:30:08 AM PDT by NYer
Got that list of BOUND things again?
Oh?
| synonyms: | change, turn, transform, metamorphose, transfigure, transmute; More |
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Hillary!
How ya been girl?
Haven't heard much from you since Kerry took over...
As intelligent as you claim to be, history does NOT record the fact that Catholicism invented the Counter REVOLT to try to correct some of it's excesses.
So?
If you guys are right, the crackers and grape juice we partake of WILL turn into the 'real stuff' when we consume it; just like yours.
Just cannot leave the talking points; can you ;^)
Just cannot leave the talking points; can you ;^)
Father forgive me; for I have sinned.
http://www.saintaquinas.com/howto_confess.html
You are describing the vast majority of protestants on this forum. Virtually none of them is even remotely capable of an intellectual discussion.
I have tried several times to engage them in discussions about, the nature of the incarnation, the Trinity, infinity and eternity in relation to the Godhead, among others. The only response I get (paraphrased) "It ain't in the Bible"
Several months ago there was a question about the location of heaven. Several of the protestant genius's state unequivocally that it was "in space." When I asked where specifically, so we could get a good look with the Hubble telescope they fell silent.
If your comment was an attempt to be derisive of me it failed.
Intelligent meaning when they AGREE with you?
Nice story.
But try the SAME question with your average Catholic pew warmer and see what THEY reply.
bramps, it appears that verga's recollection of the events is flawed. Nobody said that heaven was "in space", nor did I see anyone make any comments about being able to see it with the Hubble telescope.
I'd be curious, verga, just where do CATHOLICS think heaven is?
What else?
What next? Following Rome which declares truth by fiat, RCs here compel not only Scriptures to support Rome but even words. faced with multitudes converting to evangelical faith which is a threat to Rome, which treats liberal RCs as members, convert is disallowed as meaning "to bring over from one belief, view, or party to another" or other than its definitions , and instead it must mean an advancement or upward movement, i.e. to become an RC. And consistent to this constrained definition, all converts from Rome have denied true Christianity.
Of course, it is unlikely that this assertion of Rome's elitism and broadside against all Protestant converts would qualify as bigotry according to the Roman Catholic (another word that is objected to) definition of the word here, as it has been decreed that there is not and never has been a scintilla of anti-protestant bigotry on FR.
The autocrats have spoken: the matter is settled.
As before, your assertion is based upon the premise that Rome is the church seen in the NT, despite its clear and its critical differences .
Once again you are begging the question, stating as fact that which needs to be proved.
Thus my post on this issue which was not responded to.
I don't think the lady doth protest to much, I know she does
Nobody said that heaven was "in space",
The word "Nobody" attempts to make this a universal negative statement. Automatically this makes your statement in error. Further there were two protestants that said it was in space. It was in a discussion about Mary being assumed vs Jesus ascension into heaven. Go back and look it up.
nor did I see anyone make any comments about being able to see it with the Hubble telescope.
Please go back and re-read the comment. I am the one that asked about being able to see it with the Hubble since two of you felt it was in outer space.
Bramps you may want to pay very close attention to the next attempt I make at an intelligent dialogue with one of your fellow protestants. I'd be curious, verga, just where do CATHOLICS think heaven is?
To ask; "Where is heaven?" resorts to the same faulty logic as asking; "When did God come into existence?" Two attributes of God that you must remember of God is that He is both eternal and infinite. This is to say that God is not limited by either time or space. He existed before time began and will continue to exist long after time has ceased to exist.
Further we can understand that God is not limited to space of dimensions as we understand it since saying that He resides in our universe is to put a dimensional limit on both Him and heaven.
Therefore we can say with absolute certainty that God and Heaven are both outside of our universe in what for lack of a better term would have to be called an infinite eternal realm.
Bramps, the two stock answers I get from protestants are: 1) That doesn't answer the question, and 2) Prove it using the Bible.
Bramps and metmom please see this thread. iscool admits that he was one of the ones that said it was in space. Perhaps he would like to remind metmom of who the other one was. Mary 'can only bring us to God,' expert says as entrustment nears thread post # 242
It would behoove you to accurately portray what others have said. It would be a great boost to your credibility in the future, as at the moment it is sinking faster than the Titanic.
Seriously, Iscool admitted exactly what I said, and anyone with an IQ over 6 sees it.
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