[metmom]

Several months ago there was a question about the location of heaven. Several of the protestant genius's state unequivocally that it was "in space." When I asked where specifically, so we could get a good look with the Hubble telescope they fell silent.

bramps, it appears that verga's recollection of the events is flawed. Nobody said that heaven was "in space", nor did I see anyone make any comments about being able to see it with the Hubble telescope.

I'd be curious, verga, just where do CATHOLICS think heaven is?

[verga]

bramps, it appears that verga's recollection of the events is flawed.

I don't think the lady doth protest to much, I know she does

Nobody said that heaven was "in space",

The word "Nobody" attempts to make this a universal negative statement. Automatically this makes your statement in error. Further there were two protestants that said it was in space. It was in a discussion about Mary being assumed vs Jesus ascension into heaven. Go back and look it up.

nor did I see anyone make any comments about being able to see it with the Hubble telescope.

Please go back and re-read the comment. I am the one that asked about being able to see it with the Hubble since two of you felt it was in outer space.

Bramps you may want to pay very close attention to the next attempt I make at an intelligent dialogue with one of your fellow protestants. I'd be curious, verga, just where do CATHOLICS think heaven is?

To ask; "Where is heaven?" resorts to the same faulty logic as asking; "When did God come into existence?" Two attributes of God that you must remember of God is that He is both eternal and infinite. This is to say that God is not limited by either time or space. He existed before time began and will continue to exist long after time has ceased to exist.

Further we can understand that God is not limited to space of dimensions as we understand it since saying that He resides in our universe is to put a dimensional limit on both Him and heaven.

Therefore we can say with absolute certainty that God and Heaven are both outside of our universe in what for lack of a better term would have to be called an infinite eternal realm.

Bramps, the two stock answers I get from protestants are: 1) That doesn't answer the question, and 2) Prove it using the Bible.

[verga]

Nobody said that heaven was "in space",

Bramps and metmom please see this thread. iscool admits that he was one of the ones that said it was in space. Perhaps he would like to remind metmom of who the other one was. Mary 'can only bring us to God,' expert says as entrustment nears thread post # 242