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MSM YESTERDAY:Francis said Church obsessed about abortion! TODAY: Pope talks about abortion!
WDTPRS ^ | September 20, 2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 09/20/2013 10:48:28 AM PDT by NYer

You saw it all over the MSM yesterday.

FRANCIS CRITICIZES CHURCH FOR ABORTION OBSESSION!

And endless variations on the theme.

The MSM’s message: Pope Francis is saying that abortion really isn’t all that bad.

Today, however, I read in the Bolletino that Pope Francis addressed the International Federation of Catholic Medical Associations.

NB in my rapid translation and emphases:

A mentality of the useful, the “throw-away culture”, which today enslaves the hearts and minds of so many, has a very high cost: it requires the elimination of human beings, especially if they are physically or socially weaker. Our response to this mentality is a decisive “Yes” – and without any wavering – for life. “The first right of the human person is his life. He has other goods and some are more precious, but this one is fundamental – the condition of all the others.” (1974 CDF, Declaration on Procured Abortion, 11) Things have a price and they are saleable, but persons have a dignity, they are worth more than thanks and they are priceless. So often, we find ourselves in situations wherein we see that which costs the less is life. For this reason, attention to human life in its totality has become in recent times a true and fitting priority for the Magisterium of the Church, especially for the most defenseless, namely, the disabled, the sick, those about to born (al nascituro), the baby, the elderly, which is the most vulnerable life.

In the fragile human being each one of us is invited to recognize the face of the Lord, who in His human flesh experienced indifference, and the solitude to which we often condemn the poorest, both in developing countries and in the countries that are well-off. Every unborn child, but condemned unjustly to be aborted, has the face of Jesus Christ, has the face of the Lord, which even before birth, and then as soon as born, experiences the refusal of the world. And every old person and – I spoke about the child: let us go to the elderly, another point! And every older person, even if infirm or at the end of her days, bears herself the face of Christ. They can’t be thrown away, as the “throw-away culture” proposes to us! They can’t be thrown away!

Will this be reported today by the MSM in the wake of their coverage of the Big Interview?

I’m just asking.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; media; pope
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To: .45 Long Colt

That’s a deal. And if you’re here in Tri-Cities (Upper East Tennessee), we’ll take you to the Ridgeway for the best BBQ in the world!


41 posted on 09/20/2013 5:12:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God." -- -1 John 4:7)
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To: Tax-chick

Excellent comparison!


42 posted on 09/20/2013 5:53:53 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks! The brownies were delicious.


43 posted on 09/20/2013 6:00:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Prioritize!)
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To: .45 Long Colt; Mrs. Don-o; zot; jazusamo; Alamo-Girl; 2ndDivisionVet; Biggirl; xzins; ...

3 comments:

1. Colt — naughty, naughty for texting while driving.

2. we need to stop refighting the “Protestant Reformation.” A fellow historian pointed out that the Catholic Church ended up adopting all of the changes that Martin Luther put forth in his 95 Theses.

3. We need, as Christians all, focus on the spiritual and physical enemy of this secular society that wants to mold Christianity into its own form. And to be united against the anti-Christian and Western radical Islamists who are out to create a world run by radical Islam, in which there are no more Christians, or any other faith.


44 posted on 09/20/2013 6:21:27 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer

If Pope Francis went out to St. Peter’s square on Monday and started sacrificing infants to Bhaal, but on Tuesday he condemned worshiping false gods, the devoted Catholics would just claim the news media was misrepresenting his intentions about Monday.


45 posted on 09/20/2013 6:52:58 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: NYer

Boy, the lamestream media ever try to spin this one! You can sure tell they will publish anything (lies included) when it comes to the Catholic Church.


46 posted on 09/20/2013 7:00:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: GreyFriar

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. - Ephesians 6:12


47 posted on 09/20/2013 7:23:45 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ClaytonP
Sorry, not an apt comparison, The Pope has never approved (let alone participated in) the immoral acts (contraception, abortion, and sodomy) which are now the particular focus of discussion. His stance is not even remotely analogous to cooperating in the sacrifice of infants to Baal. A little outré, don't you think?.

The apparent incoherence is principally a matter of media framing, as I think anyone could see if they read the actual 12,000 word Jesuit interview, and not just the headlines, captions and ledes.

Seriously. Did you read the interview?

Interesting comments here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3069378/posts

48 posted on 09/20/2013 7:27:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God." -- -1 John 4:7)
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To: GreyFriar

1. I was stopped at a light

2. I appreciate Luther, but I’m more of a Calvin or Knox kind of guy. Not to mention, the central issue of the Reformation stands. Rome hasn’t budged an inch. The hub of the whole matter is the simple word “alone.” Rome teaches grace, but not grace alone. Rome teaches faith, but not the means of faith alone. Rome teaches Christ, but not Christ alone.

3. I would love to unite, but I’m biblically bound to separate. “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”

We simply don’t share the same faith because we have different gospels. Rome doesn’t teach the biblical means of salvation. Rome doesn’t teach that Christ’s perfect righteousness is imputed to the sinner. I must continue ringing this bell. By God’s grace, someone will heed the warning.

“But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things...”(Titus 3:4-8)

Read carefully what Paul said of the way of Abraham’s salvation. Rome doesn’t come close to teaching what this passage teaches.

“What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works:

“Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven,
and whose sins are covered;
blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.””

(Romans 4:1-8)

“For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”(Ephesians 2:8-9)


49 posted on 09/20/2013 7:40:50 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

**but I’m biblically bound to separate. “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”**

Exactly where in the Bible is this stated?


50 posted on 09/20/2013 7:43:46 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
For the discussion:

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. - Ephesians 5:11
51 posted on 09/20/2013 7:48:23 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; .45 Long Colt; GreyFriar

Then we come to the quote about removing the log from one’s eye, so that he/she might remove the splinter from another’s eye.

Or “love your enemies” even the pagans love their friends, so what good is that?”....

I know I am paraphrasing. But I agree with Grey Friar here.

There are so many things we could be united on, rather than throwing verbal daggers at one another.


52 posted on 09/20/2013 7:53:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thanks for the Biblical connotation.


53 posted on 09/20/2013 7:54:33 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; .45 Long Colt; GreyFriar
I was just answering your question.

Concerning disputes among Christians and others:

And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. - 2 Ti 2:24-26

God's Name is I AM.

54 posted on 09/20/2013 8:00:20 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Salvation

Ephesians 5:11 was the passage quoted. I should have added the cite.


55 posted on 09/20/2013 8:20:13 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Alamo-Girl

BTTT!

Exactly what Pope Francis was trying to say yesterday.

Go to those people who are hurting with gentleness and kindness and invite them back to the home of Jesus.


56 posted on 09/20/2013 8:23:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Indeed. It occurred to me that he could have provided that passage to the journalist as his "talking points."
57 posted on 09/20/2013 8:25:12 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Salvation

But I agree with Grey Friar here.

There are so many things we could be united on, rather than throwing verbal daggers at one another.

___________________________

Amen and.............AMEN!!!

(The Enemy loves to see us divided.)


58 posted on 09/20/2013 9:12:02 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: ClaytonP

And although I know you are exaggerating, one has to wonder just how far some folks will defend Francis.


59 posted on 09/21/2013 4:38:26 AM PDT by piusv
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for your post # 44. I am not a Catholic, but it is long since time for Christians of all types to stop bashing each other and face fact that we are all being attacked.


60 posted on 09/22/2013 6:48:27 PM PDT by zot
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