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1 posted on 09/12/2013 8:42:42 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
It's almost like watching a modern version of Shoes of the Fisherman.
2 posted on 09/12/2013 8:48:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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“What I can say, with the Apostle Paul, is that God has never stopped believing in the alliance made with Israel and that, through the terribile trials of these past centuries, the Jews have kept their faith in God. And for this, we will never be grateful enough to them, as the Church, but also as humanity at large. Persevering in their faith in God and in the alliance, they remind everyone, even us as Christians that we are always awaiting, the return of the Lord and that therefore we must remain open to Him and never take refuge in what we have already achieved.”


Yet, the scripture says “He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him”(Joh 5:23). How then can he say that non-Christian Jews have kept their faith in God, when they have rejected the Son and therefore the Father that sent Him?

“Given that - and this is fundamental - God’s mercy has no limits if he who asks for mercy does so in contrition and with a sincere heart, the issue for those who do not believe in God is in obeying their own conscience. In fact, listening and obeying it, means deciding about what is perceived to be good or to be evil. The goodness or the wickedness of our behavior depends on this decision.”


I’m not seeing how people are claiming that he was misquoted on this. He switches to speaking of non-believers, and then says that the infidel must listen and obey his conscience, “deciding about what is PERCEIVED to be good or to be evil. The goodness or the wickedness of our behavior depends on this decision.”

In my opinion, this entire letter says nothing, and is mostly useless. This particular section strikes me as confused and meaningless on purpose, suggesting on the one hand that there is salvation outside of Jesus Christ, while on the other hand remaining as ambiguous as possible.


3 posted on 09/12/2013 9:31:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: marshmallow

This is truly beautiful. Dr. Luther would in most, if not all respects, concur.


4 posted on 09/12/2013 9:42:09 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: marshmallow
I think it is, and always has been the Catholic Church's position, that belief in God , accepting Jesus Christ as Savior. and following his teachings and that the bible and confessing and seeking forgiveness for sins is the one sure path to God, but perhaps not the one and only path to God. (don't quote me on this as I am far from an expert)

When dealing with the infinite, it is perhaps unwise to place finite limitations.

The final decision on who enters the Kingdom Of Heaven is reserved for one and only one.

That right to judge who is worthy of the Kingdom Of Heaven was earned on on a Cross on a hill in Jerusalem some 2000 years ago and I, for one, am not presumptuous enough or worthy enough to presuppose his judgments or manner in which they will be decided.

YMMV

5 posted on 09/12/2013 9:48:31 PM PDT by rdcbn
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