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To: Elsie

That 35,000 number hits a raw nerve every time, doesn’t it? A thread few days ago linked to an independent study that purported do document the claim. Do your own search! What is the real number? 35? Would the point of Protestant critics be different if the number was 17 1/2?


790 posted on 09/14/2013 11:25:31 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!
That 35,000 number hits a raw nerve every time, doesn’t it?

Not in my world.

Do you REALLY think we'll spend much time defending your inaccuracies?

After all, that was 5 centuries ago.

Give or take.

794 posted on 09/14/2013 2:56:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Revolting cat!
Do your own search!

And I read a thread - oh, a while ago - that had Mary being seen on top of the WTC as it went down.

Do your own search!

795 posted on 09/14/2013 2:57:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Revolting cat!; Elsie

Just for fun...say hello to Papias_of_Hierapolis (wiki link)

New Advent entry for Papias begins;

http://www.cogwriter.com/papias.htm
Fragments of Papias

IV.
[As the elders who saw John the disciple of the Lord remembered that they had heard from him how the Lord taught in regard to those times, and said]: "The days will come in which vines shall grow, having each ten thousand branches, and in each branch ten thousand twigs, and in each true twig ten thousand shoots, and in every one of the shoots ten thousand clusters, and on every one of the clusters ten thousand grapes, and every grape when pressed will give five-and-twenty metretes of wine. And when any one of the saints shall lay hold of a cluster, another shall cry out, `I am a better cluster, take me; bless the Lord through me.' In like manner, [He said] that a grain of wheat would produce ten thousand ears, and that every ear would have ten thousand grains, and every grain would yield ten pounds of clear, pure, fine flour; and that apples, and seeds, and grass would produce in similar proportions; and that all animals, feeding then only on the productions of the earth, would become peaceable and harmonious, and be in perfect subjection to man." [Testimony is borne to these things in writing by Papias, an ancient man, who was a hearer of John and a friend of Polycarp, in the fourth of his books; for five books were composed by him. And he added, saying, "Now these things are credible to believers. And Judas the traitor," says he, "not believing, and asking, `How shall such growths be accomplished by the Lord? 'the Lord said, `They shall see who shall come to them.' These, then, are the times mentioned by the prophet Isaiah: `And the wolf shall lie, down with the lamb, 'etc. (Isa. xi. 6 ff.)."]

804 posted on 09/14/2013 8:41:54 PM PDT by BlueDragon (Haha. neener neener neener. We are part of the proto-cluster. Who are you?)
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