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Pope Francis rejects false religiosity
cna ^ | September 7, 2013 | Kerri Lenartowick

Posted on 09/07/2013 3:49:35 PM PDT by NYer

Pope Francis greets the faithful at the May 8 General Audience (Credit: CNA / Stephen Driscoll)

Vatican City, Sep 7, 2013 / 10:01 am (CNA/EWTN News).- In his daily homily on Saturday, Pope Francis reflected on the question of authentic Christianity and rejected the practice of focusing more on devotions than on Christ himself.

Jesus is “the center” of faith, said the Pope. “A commandment is valid if it comes from Jesus: I do this because the Lord wants me to do this. But if I am a Christian without Christ, I do this and I don’t know why I have to do it,” he said to the congregation at the Vatican’s Casa Santa Marta on September 7.

Like the Pharisees, he said, there are some people who “make so many commandments the center of their religiosity.” 

Others who have a false sense of religiosity “only seek devotions” or “things that are a little uncommon, a little special, that go back to private revelations,” noted Pope Francis.

“If your devotions bring you to Christ, that works. But if you remain there, something’s wrong,” he explained.

“If Jesus is not at the center, there will be many other things,” so that people become “Christians without Christ.”

Remembering that Jesus is the center of faith “regenerates us, grounds us.”

Pope Francis further explained the mark of a true “Christian with Christ.”

“The rule is simple: only that which brings you to Jesus is valid, and only that is valid that comes from Jesus. Jesus is the center, the Lord, as He Himself says.”

Christians can avoid false religiosity by adoring Jesus as “the Lord, the only Lord.”

“If you aren’t able to adore Jesus, you’re missing something,” warned Pope Francis.

The sign of a true “Christian with Christ” is one who does “that which comes from Jesus” and that which leads to Jesus.

Such adoration bears true fruit in the life of a Christian, encouraged the Pope.

He said that Jesus also gives “the grace of loving Him so much, of following Him, of going along the path that He has shown us.”

A “Christian with Christ” has the courage to proclaim Jesus as Lord.

Pope Francis exhorted Catholics not to focus on false piety, but rather evangelize and “take the Gospel!”


TOPICS: Catholic; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; eis; popefrancis
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To: nanetteclaret
I come to FR to read news, not see Catholic bashing threads.

There's a fix for this.


Any you bashers want to help this person out?

261 posted on 09/09/2013 11:16:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
In a religious debate,t eh first one to compare the other side to islam forfeits the debate.

And who dreamed up THIS new rule??



262 posted on 09/09/2013 11:17:23 AM PDT by Anton.Rutter
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To: Elsie

Forget it. I was brought up Presbyterian. Been there done that. I will not answer any posts. Those who try will be wasting bandwidth.


263 posted on 09/09/2013 11:17:46 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed "Elderly Kooky Type" Catholic Texan)
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To: Elsie
We seem to be arguing over whether a person with a 'vow of poverty' should live in such sumptious surroundings.

I will not speak for others. My position is that ANY world leader should be afforded protection from the whack a doodle fringe groups and individuals that take it upon themselves to create chaos.

I don't agree with our current pResident on anything, but I don't want to see him assassinated, and I sure as heck don't want to see any harm come to his children.

That is Christian compassion, and that is what is not being demonstrated by 5 of the protestants on this thread.

264 posted on 09/09/2013 11:19:25 AM PDT by verga (Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)
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To: Gamecock
Tell me if this is part of it: Modern day Christians have turned Scripture into a guide for living. And while there are certainly laws that we are expected to follow, Scripture is first and foremost about a rescue mission.

Hmmmm...that's very interesting and I know where you're coming from.

Let me start off by saying I don't believe we can live by the law. We are saved by grace-not by the law.

Now that that is out of the way, I believe every commandment or law in scripture is given for our benefit. It's not that we're expected to follow them as much as they're designed for our welfare by our loving Father. Thus the command, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.' was really a command for our benefit. Almost like, "Don't stick your hand in the fire or you'll get burn." What do we do? We stick our hand into the fire.

We give this warning of what will happen to a young child. Thus when it happens, and we know it will, we are grieved. The law is exactly like this. It is for our benefit. We simply don't want to follow it-at least for the most part. When we do try to apply God's general principles, we will live happy lives. We see this in the Ten Commandments and most of society is built around these principles (at least up until a few years ago.)

Modern day Christians really live the way they want to live and then justify their experiences based upon the scriptures. Thus, if someone doesn't want to eat pork, they'll go back to some scripture and pull out the dietary laws all the while ignoring what God states in Acts. If someone wants to justify their homosexual lifestyle, they'll state that Paul was a bigot and the Old Testament no longer pertains to us. They'll quote some church father and say, "Well, he believed this..." And how many bible believing Christians today ignore what scripture states about divorce? Little white lies are OK since they are used with good intentions. And how many passages of scriptures are quoted only to see them ignored by people saying, "Well that's a mystery but it says over here...."?

People treat the word of God very cavalier. If they truly thought this was God actually talking to them they would probably sit up a bit straighter and pay closer attention.

265 posted on 09/09/2013 11:25:06 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Elsie

There’s a difference between a Protestant taking advantage of scripture for their own gain, and the Catholic Church codifying into magisterial law as inspired teaching the same.


266 posted on 09/09/2013 11:29:03 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: metmom; Mrs. Don-o; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change

Excellent post metmom! The one thing I think we need to add to that is an explanation of what the “church” in that sense means. Especially with Catholics. The word in Greek used there for “church” really means assembly. It’s the local assembly of believers. Not some central governing authority like the RCC.


267 posted on 09/09/2013 11:34:25 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: goodwithagun

Peace is very much with me!


268 posted on 09/09/2013 11:45:59 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear
The word in Greek used there for “church” really means assembly. It’s the local assembly of believers. Not some central governing authority like the RCC.

What formal training have you had in New Testament Greek?

269 posted on 09/09/2013 11:46:23 AM PDT by verga (Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)
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To: nanetteclaret; metmom

Thanks for clairifying that quoting scripture bashes catholics.

I knew it, but I didn’t know catholics did too.


270 posted on 09/09/2013 11:53:32 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: verga
>>What formal training have you had in New Testament Greek?<<

If you doubt me prove me wrong.

271 posted on 09/09/2013 12:08:49 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: nanetteclaret; metmom
Don’t you have anything better to do with your life than sit in front of a computer screen all day and bash Catholics? What is your problem? I mean, it’s all day every day! Don’t you have some laundry to do or *something*?

She's doing God's work...Cause God knows you guys will show up every day to read it...It's called planting the seed, and watering the plants...

272 posted on 09/09/2013 12:27:37 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Gamecock

Please, I was just about to eat.....

Excuse me while I go toss my cookies......


273 posted on 09/09/2013 12:30:12 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: nanetteclaret

If you do not wish to see Religion Forum posts, do NOT use the “everything” option on the Free Republic browse option list. Instead, browse by “News/Activism.” When you log back in, the browse will reset to “everything” - so be sure to set it back to “News/Activism.”


274 posted on 09/09/2013 12:31:32 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: caww
Well that evidences clearly you can’t take it with you!

FOTFLOL!!!!!

275 posted on 09/09/2013 12:33:53 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: CynicalBear
If you doubt me prove me wrong.

It was a simple question. What level of formal training do you have?

276 posted on 09/09/2013 12:37:00 PM PDT by verga (Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)
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To: verga; Elsie; metmom; smvoice
>>Do you feel he should be afforded the same protection?<<

Heck, I’ll answer. Sure he does just like Ahmadinejad, Obama, Morsi, Putin or any other world leader. Come to think of it though. None of those use a glass showcase vehicle so they can be worshiped. Hmmm. Maybe it’s not like any other world leader. More like a “another” Christ maybe.

277 posted on 09/09/2013 12:38:07 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Elsie; nanetteclaret

Sheesh, we’ve got a Catholic FReeper freeping while in labor and *I’m* getting raked over the coals for not having a life?


278 posted on 09/09/2013 12:38:09 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: verga
>>It was a simple question. What level of formal training do you have?<<

I gave a simple solution to the answer to your question. Prove me wrong.

279 posted on 09/09/2013 12:39:37 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Elsie; nanetteclaret
Any you bashers want to help this person out?

Sure.

Stay off the RF or don't click on non-Catholic Caucus threads.

280 posted on 09/09/2013 12:39:58 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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