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Pope Francis: overcome temptation to be "Christians without Jesus" (Daily Mass)
Radio Vaticana ^ | 9/7/2013

Posted on 09/07/2013 5:48:38 AM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 09/07/2013 5:48:39 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

what an idiot. if you are “without Jesus” you are NOT Christian


2 posted on 09/07/2013 5:57:23 AM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq (Teresa Davis)
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To: markomalley

That’s what Marx did. He made the tenets of Christianity acceptable to non believers. Ironically Communism acquired all the tenets of religion. Symbols such as the hammer and sickle, icons and saints ( Lenin (who in a crude way can be compared to St. Paul, Stalin, Mao, and hordes of minor luminaries) epic tales such as the Russian revolution, the Great March, distinctive orders such as the Jesuits ( KGB, Comintern), and fervent followers that have an emotional commitment and belief that rivals that of any religious fundamentalist. Of course the Pope is right. Communism was rotten and fundamentally evil at its core.


3 posted on 09/07/2013 5:58:38 AM PDT by allendale
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

The world is full of “cultural Christians.”


4 posted on 09/07/2013 5:59:16 AM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

Quotation marks are sometimes used to indicate irony or the opposite of the literal meaning . Hence “Christians without Jesus”.


5 posted on 09/07/2013 6:04:05 AM PDT by grimalkin (The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man. -G.K. Chesterton)
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To: markomalley; SendShaqtoIraq; zot; grimalkin; RobbyS; allendale

Mark, thank you for posting this. Allen - Excellent point.

SendShaq: Obviously you miss his point that many think that one can be a Christian without Jesus. It may be obvious, but in today’s world, it is NOT. Be slower to call the Pope or any other Christian, an “idiot” for teaching the truth to those who either do not know or do not believe.

there is a person where I work who is an atheist (quiet, not ‘evangelical’) who believes that the morality of society comes from within individual people; he does not accept that it is only because of Judeo-Christian morality that allows this country and Western society to exist. He does not see a correlation between the break down of current society as resulting from the constant attacks on Judeo-Christian faith and beliefs. And for the type of work he does, his inability to see this disconnect is astonishing to me.


6 posted on 09/07/2013 6:16:09 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

Who is the idiot to which you refer?

Is it the author of the sermon?

Or are you speaking as the idiot?


7 posted on 09/07/2013 6:45:12 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: markomalley

I go to church every Sunday, twice unless there is a football game on, i do my duty.

I make sure i have my no smoking signs where they can be seen.

If i see some one smoking i say to them :don,t you know them cigarettes will kill you: or don,t you know that you will go to hell for using tobacco?

I heard a preacher say one time that you were supposed to stop and give people a hand if they needed it, but anyone knows that if they were going to church and living right they would not be in the position to need any help.

What in the world does the Gospel have to do with it any way?
“take the Gospel!”


8 posted on 09/07/2013 6:47:29 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: markomalley

Thank-you Mark!


9 posted on 09/07/2013 6:47:36 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: GreyFriar

Thank-you for your coments. What it all comes down to is the need for relationship with the Lord Jesus.


10 posted on 09/07/2013 7:11:00 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley

Thank-you Mark and God Bless!


11 posted on 09/07/2013 7:13:40 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

You are missing the point by a mile. The Pope is right and I just hear a sermon on the crisis in America of Christ-less churches


12 posted on 09/07/2013 7:16:43 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

Please, do not speak ill of Pope Francis.


13 posted on 09/07/2013 7:20:42 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: GreyFriar

I sense it is a call for ALL of us to pray for our own spiritual conversion as well as for the spiritual conversion of others to Christ.


14 posted on 09/07/2013 7:23:50 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
I don't think you get the gist of what the Pope is saying.

"Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you"  (Jn 6:53).  

15 posted on 09/07/2013 7:26:41 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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It’s important to note that for the most part, socialism is a *parody* of Christianity. The easiest way to imagine this is if the Bible was rewritten to make man, not God, the center of the book, both old and new testaments.

Of course, this idea is full of holes, but socialist theorists got around the problem by rewriting any Biblical elements as needed to justify their beliefs.

This began in earnest with the “historical criticism” of the “higher critics”, from the 17th to the 20th Centuries. It was loaded with assumptions not based in facts, but opinions. For example, “Hebrews did not eat unclean animals like pork because of diseases like trichinosis.”

The idea that science displaces God also figures prominently in socialist theory, which used to be called “scientific socialism”.

This makes it especially ludicrous, as they try to justify the atheist use of Biblical doctrines in socialist faith based theories.

A favorite of these justifies radical, anti-human environmentalism. In the Bible, Adam and Eve are booted out of the Garden of Eden for eating of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Socialism rewrites this as a goal of socialism to return mankind to Eden (which they call the State of Nature), by renouncing the ideas of good and evil. In short, if a person becomes amoral, he is moving back to nature.

And this concept has all sorts of weird and perverse permutations, from the utterly genocidal, wiping out of most of humanity, to ideas like personal amorality or immorality “free love” as being good. To radical environmentalism, ala Al Gore.

Why do democrats abhor energy production? Simple, because it is “not natural”. Religious idiots.

In any event, the one thing that socialists cannot tolerate in their “faith” is God, in any significant way. They can be called “atheist Christians”, in that they want all the good stuff; but they are so arrogant they think themselves like God, or a substitute for God.


16 posted on 09/07/2013 7:31:09 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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17 posted on 09/07/2013 7:35:09 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: All

How about Christians without the demigoddess Mary as Queen of Heaven? Or a Church without graven images? Or a Church without infant baptisms? Jesus we need, the others need to be discarded as unBiblical.


18 posted on 09/07/2013 7:56:07 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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Mary is not a demi goddess as you say. She is the mother of Jesus, true man and true God.

Where do you get your mistaken information, BTW?


19 posted on 09/07/2013 7:59:44 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BipolarBob

**discarded as unBiblical.**

Maryh is in the Bible, or doesn’t your Bible have the Book of Luke?

LOL!


20 posted on 09/07/2013 8:01:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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