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To: Gamecock; Alex Murphy

Yes, because Republicans can certainly win without Catholic votes. Or at least, they can honorably lose in a landslide without having to consort with the filthy Papist scum. /s


24 posted on 09/05/2013 2:35:29 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion; Alex Murphy
**Yes, because Republicans can certainly win without Catholic votes**

Seems the Dems have that vote locked up.

Obama wins with the Catholic vote

25 posted on 09/05/2013 2:45:18 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Campion
Once the immigrants are legalized and the left has a lock on power, the mask will come off and the persecution of the church will begin.

I won't shed a tear or lift a finger to help them at that point.

26 posted on 09/05/2013 2:48:50 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: Campion; Gamecock
Yes, because Republicans can certainly win without Catholic votes

They're certainly not voting for conservative candidates!

LifeSiteNews recently reported the unsurprising findings of a poll commissioned by The Washington Post and ABC stating that a majority of American Catholics are in favor of abortion in “all or most cases.”
-- from the thread Why you shouldn’t blame the clergy that a majority of Catholics support abortion

The disagreement over Notre Dame and Obama is essentially the same as the disagreement among clashing American Catholic camps over the issue of the moral and legal status of abortion itself. In fact, 61 percent of the “attend less often” Catholics believe that abortion rights should be protected in all or most cases, as opposed to 30 percent (still an interesting number) among the “attend weekly” Catholics.
— from the thread Those consistently complex “Catholic voters”

They may call themselves Catholics, and they may even go to Mass, but when it comes to life choices they are virtually indistinguishable from everyone else in America. They don’t live radical Christianity out in any real sort of way. Their lives look just like the lives of their worldly neighbors. They don’t give any more than the average joe. They seem just as likely to divorce their spouses, have only 2.5 children as their non Catholic neighbors and they seem just as materialistic as everyone else. They attend church if they feel like it, but if there’s a weekend football game or the call of the beach house they’re just as likely to respond to that demand. When it comes to voting, they’ll vote as they wish according to wherever they get their opinions from–TV, the newspaper, the mass media–just like their neighbors. The one source they won’t consider when informing their vote is their priests and bishops.
— from the thread Catholic Vote?

Are Catholics now so “successfully” assimilated into American political life that they are without political impact—that there really is no such thing as a “Catholic vote”? Unfortunately enough, Catholics are largely indistinguishable from non-Catholics and, despite a few pundits, no, there really is no “Catholic vote.” This obvious conclusion—clear enough from the fact that the vote for the winning candidates in the last national election was approximately the same for Catholics and non-Catholics—has serious current implications....

....Compare two lists: According to the USCCB, the five most Catholic states, in population, are: Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and Connecticut. According to the American Life League, the states with the most pro-life legislation (i.e., inhibiting abortion in various ways) are: Oklahoma, Louisiana, Pennsylvania, Arkansas and Texas. This is a shocker. In short, there is no Catholic political impact in support of life in those states reportedly having the most Catholics. As Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia put it, after the 2008 election, “[w]e need to stop overcounting our numbers, our influence, our institutions, and our resources, because they are not real.”
— from the thread The Mythical Catholic Vote: The Harmful Consequences of Political Assimilation

According to Pew Research statistics, 23.9% of Americans are Catholics....Out of this very influential voter block came a Catholic majority which twice voted for Barack Obama. Understandably, voting for a Presidential candidate isn't a simple proposition, as candidates on both sides offer strengths and weaknesses. Yet, the Catholic decision to endorse Obama as President ratified the American Catholic movement as freely, and willfully, moving toward apostasy. If this sounds harsh, and overtly right wing, please feel free to dissect the political implications, and tell me where the apostasy, and idolatry, doesn't exist....Never before has a President overtly attacked religious freedom as has been instituted, as of the first of this month, in the HHS mandate. Gay marriage, moreover, has reached historical precedents through a left-radical push, endorsed by an administration which is overtly against established religious authority. And contraception, in Plan B, has become more than a moral issue, as it has been inculcated into a larger political battering ram, tearing down Constitutional and moral-ethical American Tradition.

Recapping, a majority of American Catholics have endorsed abortion, religious persecution, gay 'marriage,' contraception, and government tyranny.
-- from the thread Bringing a spiritual indictment against American Catholicism [don ye the asbestos suits]


29 posted on 09/05/2013 3:01:45 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: Campion

Don’t the Papists vote in the majority for Dems anyway?


42 posted on 09/05/2013 5:25:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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