“Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. It is irrelevant to my point. He did something wrong in any case but seems to have been sincere - no matter how wrong he was.”
Just goes to show how relativistic you have to be to remain in the Catholic religion. John Paul II is also on record saying that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. That
“all men are united to Christ solely by virtue of the Incarnation.[1]
say that all men are saved.[2]
· say that the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church of the Creed is present, in all its essential elements, in non-Catholic sects.[3]
· say that the Catholic Church is in communion with non-Catholic sects.[4]
· say that the Catholic Church is incapable of giving credibility to the Gospel, unless there is a “reunion of Christians.”[5]
· say that the Catholic Church shares a common apostolic faith with the non-Catholic sects.[6]
· say that non-Catholic sects have an apostolic mission.[7]
· say that the Holy Ghost uses non-Catholic sects as a means of salvation.[8]
· say that it is divinely revealed that men have a right to religious freedom and freedom of conscience.[9]
· say that a properly ordered society is one in which all religions are given free rein to practice, proselytize and propagate.[10]
· say that Our Lord’s descent into hell simply means that He was buried.[11]
· participate in all forms of non-Catholic worship, including that of the Lutherans, the Jews, the Hindus, the American Indians, the Polynesians, to mention only some;
· praise the voodoo religion;
· permit the abomination of Assisi, in which a golden statue of Buddha was placed upon an altar an incensed by a Buddhist priest;
· permit the ecumenical abominations contained in the Ecumenical Directory.
· approve of sacrilege to the Blessed Sacrament by permitting non-Catholics to receive It.
Footnotes:
[1] Redemptor Hominis, 13.3
[2] Homily in Santa Maria in Trastevere, April 27, 1980
[3] Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on Some Aspects of the Church Understood as Communion., (1992)
[4] ibid.
[5] Osservatore Romano, May 20, 1980
[6] ibid.
[7] Osservatore Romano, June 10, 1980
[8] Catechesi Tradendæ, October 16, 1979
[9] Redemptor Hominis, 12.2 and Dives in Misericordia, and his speech to the United Nations on October 2, 1979 and in many other places.
[10] Vatican II, Dignitatis Humanæ, a document which John Paul II says has a particular binding force.
[11] General Audience, January 11, 1989
[12] May 31, 1980 in a speech to the Moslems in Paris.
[13] The Denzinger is the book which contains the teachings of the popes and general councils.
http://www.traditionalmass.org/articles/article.php?id=29&catname=5#_edn12
So it seems that on the one hand, your Popes are in constant retreat and are constantly trying to appear tolerant and appealing to not just Protestants, but even giving credibility to Hindus, Voodoo practitioners and the like. Whereas (some) of the Catholic faithful, like on FR, attack their opponents with the most repulsive of insults.
How these folks don’t keep from going mad, I do not know. Considering Francis has also already been saying that atheists are “first class children of God” due to Christ’s sacrifice (when, really, they’re not children of God at all so long as they are unbelievers), I suspect that he will be giving us lots of new material for the future as well.
“Just goes to show how relativistic you have to be to remain in the Catholic religion.”
Well, I guess you have to change the subject since you lost the debate on Brewer already. Also, I expressed no relativism at all. My point was the same through out.
“John Paul II is also on record saying that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.”
Muslims and Christians both profess to worship the God of Abraham. John Paul II was not wrong to make that point nor to take Muslims at their word even of their understanding of God is limited by their unbelief in the Trinity. But again, since you lost on Brewer, I guess next we can expect the kitchen sink.