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To: Elsie
Elsie wrote:

"John 6:28-29: Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”"

Oh, come now! Jesus Himself said far more than that... and many commenters (including the very good list in post #329, just above this) lay them out for you.

Think about this, for a moment: would the "goats" who are damned to hell for not feeding the poor, clothing the naked, etc., "saved" because they "believed in the One God had sent"? No... belief, in and of itself, is not enough... and Jesus' own comment in John 6:28-29 assumes that all His OTHER words will be taken seriously (especially His words about the Eucharist, in the very same chapter!). If one doesn't do good works, and if one deliberately (after coming to an adequate understanding) refuses to eat His Body and drink His Blood in the Eucharist, how can they be said to "believe in Him" truly?

For example: is simple "belief" enough, or are we supposed to LOVE Him, too? (Catholics believe the latter.) And those who love Him will obey Him (John 14:15), yes?

The Gospel is not meant to be whittled away to a crude lump of a reductionist bumper-sticker; if it were, then the Bible would be 1 page long, for all that!
382 posted on 08/28/2013 11:07:05 AM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan
Jesus Himself said far more than that

NOT to the guys who asked the QUESTION!

392 posted on 08/28/2013 11:55:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: paladinan
...Jesus' own comment in John 6:28-29 assumes that...

Tut tut...

So much ASSUMIN' goin' on amoungst all the LITERAL bloodletting.

WHO can keep track of it??

393 posted on 08/28/2013 11:57:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: paladinan
...then the Bible would be 1 page long, for all that!

Luke 23:40-43

40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, "Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 "And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong."

42 And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!"

43 And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."

395 posted on 08/28/2013 11:59:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: paladinan
I know...


...but THAT was a 'special case'...

396 posted on 08/28/2013 12:00:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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