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To: CynicalBear
It’s not just “the representatives He left here on Earth for us” that have that Holy Spirit. It’s all believers who have that Holy Spirit and are representatives of Him here on earth.

Romans 8:9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.

If Catholics don't believe that anyone but certain representatives have the Spirit, then precious few of them are saved.

ALL the saved have the Spirit of God in them and when you do you KNOW it.

1,009 posted on 08/30/2013 12:00:02 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
>>ALL the saved have the Spirit of God in them and when you do you KNOW it.<<

Amen, Amen, and Amen!

And if Catholics believe that only the leadership has the Holy Spirit and can be taught by Him then as scripture says “Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.” That would cause me great concern if I were of the Catholic belief.

1,030 posted on 08/30/2013 1:44:24 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom

Unless you are deceiving yourself, which you said was possible earlier. Even if we think we have faith and we have fruits to show it, we still might be one of the damned.


1,040 posted on 08/30/2013 2:01:44 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: metmom
If Catholics don't believe that anyone but certain representatives have the Spirit, then precious few of them are saved.

Those who do not have the Spirit of the Lord living within them are not saved and will not be saved until they receive the Spirit...

Joh_7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

NOT just the clergy or representatives...

Joh_14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Probably most Catholics have never even heard this let alone read it in the scriptures...

Rom_8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Catholics all have live bodies...They put much confidence in their flesh...

1Jn_3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

They never believe us when we tell them this...They still won't believe it even after they read it as scripture...

1Jn_4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

They can eat Jesus an arm at a time but unless they are indwelt with the Spirit of God, well::::

Rom_8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

1,053 posted on 08/30/2013 3:26:42 PM PDT by Iscool
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