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To: Ann Archy

The mishies hit me up when I was on my way to Vietnam so I’ve been asking the same question for over forty years.

How does Glenn Beck go from lapsed Catholic to enthusiastic Mormon (LDS doctrine is fiercely anti-Catholic)?

One key is to look at the ex-Mormons, the dropouts. The majority of them turn atheistic. Sad, very sad. They were trapped in an enveloping & stifling culture for so long that upon their escape, these ex-mo’s see ALL forms of Divine worship as worthless superstition.

We should pray that God’s grace may enter their hearts.


20 posted on 08/25/2013 5:19:12 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970
I had a former Mormon member of the "high priesthood" tell me that one "can argue a Mormon out of Mormonism but never into Christianity."

As that began to make a lot of sense to me, having a number of Mormon family, I have begun to use the scriptures whenever the opportunity presents itself to lovingly point the way to the true Christ of the Bible, rather than the false Christ of the Mormon church and rely on the Holy Spirit to do the rest.

As I am commanded to share my faith in the true Christ of the Bible, I am never responsible for the salvation of another.

I can point to the way and pray for the person's heart to soften and be open to the truth, then let the Holy Spirit do the convicting.

21 posted on 08/25/2013 5:58:11 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: elcid1970
I had a former Mormon member of the "high priesthood" tell me that one "can argue a Mormon out of Mormonism but never into Christianity."

As that began to make a lot of sense to me, having a number of Mormon family, I have begun to use the scriptures whenever the opportunity presents itself to lovingly point the way to the true Christ of the Bible, rather than the false Christ of the Mormon church and rely on the Holy Spirit to do the rest.

As I am commanded to share my faith in the true Christ of the Bible, I am never responsible for the salvation of another.

I can point to the way and pray for the person's heart to soften and be open to the truth, then let the Holy Spirit do the convicting.

22 posted on 08/25/2013 5:58:12 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: elcid1970

Beck is an alcoholic and since Mormons don’t drink and Catholics DO....and I think his wife must be a Mormon.


28 posted on 08/25/2013 8:10:55 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: elcid1970

//We should pray that God’s grace may enter their hearts.//

Amen. Mormonism has a scorched earth view.


46 posted on 08/25/2013 10:22:22 AM PDT by reaganaut (I don't do hopey-changey. I do ouchy-bleedy.)
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To: elcid1970
How does Glenn Beck go from lapsed Catholic to enthusiastic Mormon (LDS doctrine is fiercely anti-Catholic)?

Uh...

He's still pissed at the Catholics??


 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses , vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

88 posted on 08/26/2013 9:37:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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