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What's So Uncool About Cool Churches
The Gospel Side ^ | September 23, 2012 | Matt Marino

Posted on 08/12/2013 5:32:45 PM PDT by luvie

Unintended Consequences: How the “relevant” church and segregating youth is killing Christianity.

I recently spent six-months doing a rotation as a hospital chaplain. One day I received a page (Yes, hospitals actually still use pagers). Chaplains are generally called to the rooms of people who look ill: People gray with kidney disease, or yellow with liver failure, discouraged amputees, nervous cancer patients. In this room, however, was a strikingly attractive 23 year-old young lady sitting up cheerfully in the hospital bed, holding her infant daughter and chatting with family and friends.

Confused, I stepped outside and asked her nurse, “Why did I get paged to her room?”

“Oh, she looks fabulous. She also feels great and is asking to go home,” the nurse said.

“…And you are calling me because?” I asked in confusion.

The nurse looked me directly in the eye and said: “Because we will be disconnecting her from life support in three days and you will be doing her funeral in four.”

The young lady had taken too much Tylenol. She looked and acted fine. She even felt fine, but she was in full-blown liver failure. She was dying and couldn’t bring herself to accept the diagnosis.

Today I have the sense that we are at the same place in the church. The church may look healthy on the outside, but it has swallowed the fatal pills. The evidence is stacking up: the church is dying and, for the most part, we are refusing the diagnosis.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegospelside.com ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: christianity; churches; disciples; ministry; worship; youth
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Why "me" worship is killing the church.
1 posted on 08/12/2013 5:32:45 PM PDT by luvie
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To: StarCMC; Colonel_Flagg; GodBlessUSA; ConorMacNessa; SandRat; All

*ping*


2 posted on 08/12/2013 5:34:52 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL of you heroes!)
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To: LUV W

Jesus took our Sins. The legalist can’t control you if that gets out


3 posted on 08/12/2013 5:35:46 PM PDT by SADMILLIE (r)
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To: LUV W
I have never understood Churches that try to play off Pop culture.

There was a Church here that at one time was doing WWF smack down for Christ.


4 posted on 08/12/2013 5:44:15 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Egad!


5 posted on 08/12/2013 5:48:02 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL of you heroes!)
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To: LUV W

That is what I said!!

Then they would testify!


6 posted on 08/12/2013 5:49:24 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: LUV W

Then there are all the Cowboy Churches.

It’s just to much.


7 posted on 08/12/2013 5:50:36 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

...and that teaches “love thy neighbor” how??


8 posted on 08/12/2013 5:51:13 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL of you heroes!)
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To: LUV W

There is a lot of truth in that article.

I think the problem can be boiled down to trying to reach people where they are, when in fact the whole point is to worship God. It’s as if people think that The Son of God is not attractive enough to people so they have to entertain them.

If we focus on our relationship with Jesus, as individuals and as a Christian community, and let Him show forth in our lives, the pews will be full (which they are, by the way, in Arizona).


9 posted on 08/12/2013 5:51:55 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: LUV W

Of Course, Father Mapple preached from the ships bow in Moby Dick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IctEOuPGddM


10 posted on 08/12/2013 5:54:08 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: LUV W

bump


11 posted on 08/12/2013 5:57:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: LUV W

The Church is the body of born-again believers around the world, not the individual church building or denomination - the Bible says that nothing will prevail against it. The little-c church will fall when it no longer follows Biblical principles, but the Body of Christ will overcome.


12 posted on 08/12/2013 5:58:02 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: LUV W
Your church. Does it look like this?

Nope, the last one I dropped in to just had a 5 piece band and a video screen high and to their right.......

The Baptist church I attended before that didn't even have a standing crucifix.........When I asked my friend about that, he of course had a prepared church statement why they didn't.

And Pastor Bob gave me the creeps.......

I'm still looking..........

13 posted on 08/12/2013 6:00:22 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: mylife
I don't have a problem with the occasional display to amuse and attract attention.

ever heard of "Breaking 4 Jesus"?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=481248301961820&set=a.257698644316788.64826.130673550352632&type=1&theater

14 posted on 08/12/2013 6:00:41 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: mylife

I was at a Truck Stop Church in Terrell, TX before


15 posted on 08/12/2013 6:01:16 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: LUV W

I’m done with churches with segregated services - traditional and “contemporary.” It is a travesty of the highest order.


16 posted on 08/12/2013 6:03:16 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

A church doesn’t need a cross. A church doesn’t need symbols.

A church just needs people to worship and glorify God. It is the message not the messenger (besides Jesus) that is important.


17 posted on 08/12/2013 6:03:22 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: mylife

Where the gospel is preached isn’t as important as WHAT is preached. It must be truth...as taught in the Bible. Anyone can preach the Word anywhere. “Where two are more are gathered in My name, there I shall be also”...said Jesus. Matt. 18:20.

Filling young minds with “pablum” doesn’t give them anything to grasp and it becomes meaningless.


18 posted on 08/12/2013 6:03:34 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL of you heroes!)
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To: LUV W

Many churches are just club houses....................


19 posted on 08/12/2013 6:03:58 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: GeronL

It is new to me.
I never was comfortable with that stuff.


20 posted on 08/12/2013 6:04:29 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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