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To: Zakeet
Well bully for you! I was on a debating team once, too!

Some of us take this purpose statement of Free Republic at its word:

Free Republic is the premier online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!

So tell me how your mindless "How many angels can stand on the head of a pin?" debates do anything to further conservatism in America?

Particularly when the rest of us aren't even interested in arguing with your ilk. You don't win a debate just because we ignore you.

My apologies for paying you any attention and crashing in on your pity party. Now, I'm back to ignoring you as I should have done in the first place.

32 posted on 08/01/2013 10:15:08 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman; jimrob
Maybe you should ask why, in light of this statement, JimRob hosts a Religion section.

Free Republic is the premier online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America

Maybe you didn't notice that this discussion is not in the political section but in the area set aside on FreeRepublic to discuss religion.

Here is the rest of the stated position of FR, ... As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. I don't think Jim means the Mormon god.

44 posted on 08/01/2013 11:00:34 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Vigilanteman; Colofornian; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; Elsie; All
Thank you for proving my point!

Let's begin by recalling the issue that triggered your reply ...

In all of my many years of challenging the Saints with annotated facts, I have never had one instance where a Mormon was able to even minimally refute a major issue such as: the anachronisms in their scriptures; the contradictions between their scriptures; the additions and deletions to their scriptures; vast changes in their fundamental beliefs; the false prophesies made by their founders and early church members; and their sordid past.

Now take a look at your reply to my challenge:

Well bully for you! I was on a debating team once, too!

Response: Yep. I believe it. You're better than most as demonstrated by your abundant use of some of the tricks of the [debating] trade.

Some of us take this purpose statement of Free Republic at its word

A classic debater's trick: When you can't respond to an issue, change the topic. Lawyers call this pounding the table, as in, "When you have the law on your side, pound the law; when you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; when you have nothing on your side, pound the table."

So tell me how your mindless "How many angels can stand on the head of a pin?" debates do anything to further conservatism in America?

More tricks: an ad hominem (mindless), mischaracterization (how many angels ...), reply to the changed topic.

The rest of us aren't even interested in arguing with your ilk

Another trick: Tell the judge that he doesn't need to consider your opponent because you don't want to debate him.

You don't win a debate just because we ignore you.

Another trick: Establish a false standard and hope it works. Actually, you do win a debate if the other side fails to successfully answer the issues you raise. Every time ... without question!

My apologies for paying you any attention and crashing in on your pity party.

More tricks: Back to the unimportant and ad hominem (pity party) arguments.

Now, I'm back to ignoring you as I should have done in the first place.

One last trick: When all else fails, declare victory, pick up your marbles, and go home!

Which brings us to the bottom line:

Nothing is more important in your life than determining your eternal destiny ... a fact to which all Mormons that I know readily agree. Nothing is to more important in determining whether a religion is true than the answers to the questions that I originally posed. And as noted earlier, I have never had one instance where a Mormon was able to even minimally refute those questions.

In other words, you, sir, have again proved my point.

Thank you.

50 posted on 08/01/2013 11:21:59 AM PDT by Zakeet (Democrats: Making everything free in this country except you)
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To: Vigilanteman
So tell me how your mindless "How many angels can stand on the head of a pin?" debates do anything to further conservatism in America?

When you tell US how MINDLESS Mormonism is going to do anything to save a person's soul!

52 posted on 08/01/2013 11:24:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vigilanteman
Now, I'm back to ignoring you as I should have done in the first place.

Yes; you CAN ignore us; but what you cannot ignore is that still small voice that continually nags at you...

...waking you at night...

...haunting your dreams...

...stoking your fears.

54 posted on 08/01/2013 11:25:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vigilanteman; Jim Robinson; Zakeet; colorcountry
Some of us take this purpose statement of Free Republic at its word:

Some of us take the statement of the FR site founder at HIS word!

"My position stands. The so-called book of Mormon is false gospel, ie, fiction. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity or the Word of God.

Look up false prophets in KJV.

Must be a flaw (among many flaws) in my up-bringing.

93 posted on Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:32:00 PM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)

64 posted on 08/01/2013 11:47:36 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Mormonism is the only religion that teaches God will forcibly separate your family after you die.)
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To: Vigilanteman
You may have missed this little tid bit...

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.

You see that statement, you are aware there is a religion forum on FR...

It may be here for a reason...

As for the rest one wins a debate because they are right, and in this case the LDS is a fraud (which is really not debatable for the honest). If I was defending a fraud I would quickly loose interests as well, indeed I would ignore the truth in front of you as you say you should have in the first place.

Again...

Maybe a little sticky note on the monitor to remind yourself...

91 posted on 08/01/2013 1:12:44 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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