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To: Hostage

You miss the point. I am not saying you deny what happened to the Jews.

I said you are like them....

You deny deny deny that Pope John Paul could have known about Maciel.

He did.

And did nothing about it.

If you don’t believe Moreno or P JP II’s secretary who said that is what Moreno said...then look at the circumstantial evidence that NOTHING happened to Maciel until the Pope was dead.

Even Maciel’s son said Maciel said he would be in trouble once the Pope was dead.

Of course, you probably don’t believe anything ever happened in the Franklin Cover Up....which has an interesting tie to Casey...It would be very interesting to know if Casey did, in fact, give over a million bucks to Maciel’s church.


15 posted on 07/29/2013 11:19:29 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
You cast all sorts of dispersions on others, making judgements left and right and assuming the information you've been given is accurate and faithful.

Jesus said "Do not judge, or you too will be judged" (Matthew 7:1).

When there are accusations, when there are emotions and hysteria, a seasoned detective will take down facts from every side and a lawyer will establish context, then motive and intent if any exists.

Detectives know that eye witnesses at a crime scene will remember the crime happened however they want to remember it. Some will mix dreams and fantasy into their reality. So one has to be extra careful not to join a lynch mob and take the accused out to the gallows before justice is served.

Hindsight is 20-20. But ***at the time*** of the crime, and often well after, the facts are not clear and the context is not understood.

Read here about the McMartin child abuse allegations and how innocent lives were ruined amid a 20th century witch hunt:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ra_mcmar.htm#

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Here's a bit of context of an injustice I witnessed in the 3rd grade of which I was a key player. I sat at a table next to a young boy named Ronny who looked older than he was and who was a genius.

Ronny turned to me and told me to look at where he was pointing his finger. It happened so fast I looked. The natural instinct for someone who is told to look where someone is pointing is to look where they are pointing. Try the old trick on anyone when you put your finger on their chest and say "Look!" and they will look down. It's instinctive to look.

And what did I look at? I looked at where his finger was pointing to his answer to test question number 3. I immediately turned away but not before Ronny raised his hand and called out to the teacher that I had looked at his answer. The teacher suspended me for cheating.

Ronny was a genius, an evil genius. Here was the context, his motive and intention:

Ronny and I were the best spellers and the best artists in the class. We were rivals. He wanted to eliminate me. He nearly succeeded until my father, an attorney intervened.

Ronny was involved with another boy named Eddie and the two of them were caught shoplifting from the local five and dime. I witnessed the shoplifting and told my father who reported it to the school the next day. Both Ronny and Eddy were suspended not because of my father's testimony but because my father got the store manager to call the school and back up that I was not in any way involved in the shoplifting, only Ronny and Eddy were involved. We were all 8 years old at the time so there was no police report filed, the store manager only went so far as to notify the parents.

It was this incident that taught me how words, and lies and stories are made up by evil people with a motive to harm others for selfish reasons and feelings of jealously.

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Now the context on Pope John Paul II:

A man who grew up under and witnessed the evils of the Soviet Union. A man who knew first hand the lies of the leftist press. A man who knew how homosexuals manufacture deceit and project that deceit onto others.

http://www.newoxfordreview.org/note.jsp?did=0610-notes-maciel

Pope Benedict is also directly responsible for initiating the investigation of Legion of Christ founder Fr. Marcial Maciel, followed by a full-scale investigation of the religious order itself. Already disgraced by the time of his death at the age of 87 in 2008, Maciel was accused of sexually abusing young seminarians for decades. Maciel, a conservative Catholic icon, backed by priests under his tutelage, swore up and down that there was no truth to any of the accusations. Legion spokesmen vilified the victims and implied that the investigative journalists covering the scandal were brazen liars, adding that these “attacks” on Fr. Maciel and the Legion of Christ were due to the order's militant orthodoxy and loyalty to the Pope. The Legion mouthpieces all maintained this with a united front even after Pope Benedict ordered Fr. Maciel “to retire to a life of prayer and penance” in 2006.

Since Maciel's death, insurmountable evidence has not only revealed that there was truth to the many allegations of serial homosexual abuse of young seminarians under his care, but it was discovered that the Legion founder sired at least six children with three different women, and that he lived (off and on) in Mexico for twenty-three years under an assumed name with at least one woman, maintaining a “family” with her for decades.

18 posted on 07/29/2013 5:00:29 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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