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Year of Faith: Does God Command Evil Actions in the Bible? Part II (Part I linked)
thecatholicyearoffaith ^ | July 25, 2013 | John Harden

Posted on 07/25/2013 11:51:19 AM PDT by NYer

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Before joining Ascension Press, John served as the marketing assistant for Current USA, in Colorado Springs. John received his bachelors in theology from Benedictine College in Atchison, KS, and his masters in theology from Franciscan University in Steubenville, OH. He enjoys reading the writings of the saints, and regularly volunteers with Habitat for Humanity. John is an active member of St. Michael the Archangel Byzantine Catholic Church in Phoenixville, PA as well as a 4th degree member of the Knights of Columbus. John, his wife, and their four children live in West Chester, PA.
1 posted on 07/25/2013 11:51:20 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/25/2013 11:51:40 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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Of course, this is just one explanation. There are many other possible interpretations. What do you think?

So much for Catholics lecturing Protestants about "private interpretations" of scripture!

3 posted on 07/25/2013 12:27:33 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: NYer

If God doesn’t punish the innocent, why did he kill David’s son?


4 posted on 07/25/2013 12:40:24 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: NYer

as to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah— Scripture speaks in Chapter 18 of the debate and one needs consider Biblical symbols to understand some of it.It appears ethno centrism is going on here — the text speaks of the number of men—not the number of souls. The speculator does not allow Scripture to speak for itself but plays what if? As it appears the society was governed by men—the judgement for their unrighteousness rests with the guilty. When we play what if with Scripture we end up wholly seduced like Eve in the garden.”Thou shalt not surely die?” Genesis 19 : declares that Sodom and Gomorrah were overthrown -so it was.


5 posted on 07/25/2013 12:41:31 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Alex Murphy

Because we think that private interpretations are often speculative and are not to be accepted if they conflict with the authority of the Church.


6 posted on 07/25/2013 1:41:43 PM PDT by RobbyS
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Well, the innocent do suffer, as Christ’s example attests. . And the paradox that it is the unblemished lamb that is sacrificed?


7 posted on 07/25/2013 1:49:05 PM PDT by RobbyS
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Israelites were the first people on Earth to figure out that they did not need to be worshiping dwarf stars. “Yahveh” is the same basic word as “Jove” (Jupiter) and you can convince yourself that “El” meant Saturn by doing Google searches on ‘El Saturn Babylon’ and you need to included the term ‘Babylon’ to keep from seeing all the hits for GM Saturn dealerships. I’d assume that Jericho and Ai were before Israelites figured out that God was not Jupitor or Saturn...


8 posted on 07/25/2013 1:54:15 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Alex Murphy
So much for Catholics lecturing Protestants about "private interpretations" of scripture!

Oh, Alex, your comment was expected. The author is referring to this passage:

“If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away … And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one of your members than to have your whole body go into Gehenna” (Matthew 5:29-30).

You are not a literalist, nor are we. The example he cited comes from his interpretation of that passage. What is yours?

9 posted on 07/25/2013 1:58:49 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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Oh, Alex, your comment was expected....You are not a literalist, nor are we.

Mindreading, NYer?

10 posted on 07/25/2013 2:00:48 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
That guy is his own pope, I tell 'ya. ;^)

How dare he go to reading scripture on his own. the nerve of that guy!

In Southern Baptist seminaries, it was once commonly taught to not say, "this is what the bible says, and this is what it means" like closing a door upon possibility of anything further, but rather to say "this is what the bible says, and this is what it means to me".

There is a lot that can be said for that approach...
if we cannot trust the Lord to use His own word to do that work He sent it to do, then all the table pounding and book thumping in the world isn't going to get His message across. His Kingdom is not of this world.

11 posted on 07/25/2013 2:05:14 PM PDT by BlueDragon (...and if my thought dreams, could be seen, They'd probably put my head, in a guillotine...)
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To: NYer

So you don’t take this passage literally?


12 posted on 07/25/2013 2:39:17 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Mindreading, NYer?

You bet! : - )

Still in my daily prayers!

13 posted on 07/25/2013 2:54:21 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: ShadowAce
So you don’t take this passage literally?

Do you?

14 posted on 07/25/2013 2:57:52 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: RobbyS

Clearly in this world, the innocent suffer. However, the question I asked was; if (as is usually claimed) God doesn’t punish the innocent, why did He kill David’s son?


15 posted on 07/25/2013 3:28:22 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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Everybody dies. Why does he kill EVERYBODY’s son?


16 posted on 07/25/2013 4:57:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Point of information.)
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If he “killed” David’s son for David’a guilt, he has also “killed” the rest of us, and often our innocent children ,for our sins. The wages of sin is death.


17 posted on 07/25/2013 5:29:14 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS

So the assertion by the author that God doesn’t punish the innocent is incorrect?


18 posted on 07/25/2013 5:40:12 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That’s a really good question.


19 posted on 07/25/2013 5:40:55 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: NYer

I will answer as soon as you do.


20 posted on 07/25/2013 6:18:19 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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