Posted on 07/19/2013 2:58:02 PM PDT by NYer
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Please don’t throw me in that briar patch. Methodists are liberals. It is just that simple.
Do you know what percent if any of your tithes and/or offerings go toward the liberal causes of the UMC?
I was born and raised in the UMC. My mother was active in United Methodist Women almost until she died. I can’t imagine that she and the ladies she served with would condone any of the liberal/commie stances of the UMC these days. I left it long ago and have had friends who actually got up and walked out of the church in the middle of the sermon, vowing never to go back!
why would a Christian belong to the UMC?
Of course they’re going to lose members if they abort them. All the churches I’ve been in kept their members before they were born.
does your church send funds to the UMC ?
Left UMC a while back because of the national office liberal positions.
You realize that some of the collection plate goes to the national office?
Need contact info for this person. I want to tell her something.
Sent;
Dear Ms. Taylor,
The good book says that God knew people before they were born. “While you were in the womb”. So,in God’s eyes,someone yet unborn is KNOWN to Him. Therefore,to abort a PERSON is to interfere in God’s purpose. Also,to kill a PERSON.... is a crime. Specifically it is MURDER.
Reconsider your stance,in light of scripture, which says Do Not Murder.
There is a world of difference between old time traditional Methodists and the new Methodists.
>>Do you know what percent if any of your tithes and/or offerings go toward the liberal causes of the UMC?
To the liberal causes? About 4%, depending on your definition of a liberal cause. I wish it didn’t, but it does. Of course, we have some liberals in the church, so we could say that my part of apportionments goes to good causes and their portion goes to liberal causes.
>>why would a Christian belong to the UMC?
The same reason a Christian would be a Roman Catholic, Episcopal, Presbyterian, Lutheran, or Baptist. See Phil 1:18 for the reason.
That only holds for those who know nothing about how the denomination works.
There IS NO CENTRAL AUTHORITY that represents United Methodism. There is NO bishop in charge. There is NO agency in charge. There is NO board in charge.
The United Methodist Church is made up of geographic areas with presiding bishops, none of whom have any authority over any of the others. The East Ohio bishop has absolutely nothing to do with the Kentucky bishop beyond maybe having lunch together at times.
The United Methodist General Board of Church and Society has no authority to order anyone to do anything. They don't even speak for the denomination. They are a committee that is supposed to be tasked to encourage United Methodists to get involved in the world around them.
They can't call me up and tell me diddly-squat.
There is only ONE denominational voice, and that is the General Conference meeting that takes place for about 2 weeks every 4 years. The statement you read above from our Book of Discipline is the only authoritative statement about the UMC position on abortion. It is authoritative because it was written after voting approved it at the every 4 year General Conference.
It is very weak. It is an improvement over time from what it was back in the 70's.
It would be fully life-oriented if conservative Methodists in the USA and in Africa, Asia, and South America had their way. They are the INCREASING number of Methodists, so presumably, theirs is the voice that will eventually win out.
But, only 2 weeks to change things only once every 4 years makes for very slow going.
So what, exactly, is “reproductive justice”?
Like I have stated before. A woman has the right to choose. When she chooses to have sex and gets pregnant she uses up that right. She doesn’t have the right to commit murder.
if they abortion they shouldnt be called Christian
You left out the Council of Bishops which meets regularly and oversees the work and positions of the denomination. They are a distinctly liberal bunch who routinely interfere in the activities of the local church.
No, I didn’t forget the Council of Bishops. It is not a body that can set or change the direction of the denomination. That can only be done by the 4 year General Conference. There is no presiding bishop, there is no authority regarding the law of the denomination, so they are free to do whatever they want despite any meetings of the council of bishops. It’s a slight bit more than a coffee-klatch, and a world less than a board of directors.
It is the language of liberals, bhf. Liberals throw the word "justice", like sheisse, everywhere and hope it sticks somewhere.
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