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To: teppe

Keep up the Smears, Innuendo, Distortions and Fabrications .... no one does it better than you!


That is saying it like it is.

If some one wants to Go after what they refer to as false religion there are so many other things that is a lot more clear from the Bible that they could use.

It is my belief that they are not going after false religion at all because that would include their own church, but they are only going after plural marriage which is mostly a non issue.

And also many comments which i have read in prior threads seem to equate plural marriage to gay marriage.

Several comments was against gay marriage because it might lead to plural marriage, which is a way of saying that polygamy is worse that homosexuality.

Making a big to do over plural marriage may be a way of taking peoples attention from gay marriage, which is supporting it.

An other example.
They equate polygamy with gay marriage, so what they are doing is calling many of our Christian founders queers.

Although one man an one woman is probably the ideal, i see nothing that forbids plural marriage.

If they think the Bible forbids plural marriage then they should do every thing they can to get rid of the very Bible they claim to believe in because many of the people who made possible the books which made the Bible possible had more than one wife.

This is part of the reason that i belong to no religion, and probably no religion would have me any way, ha ha.


51 posted on 07/13/2013 8:06:04 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf

“An other example. They equate polygamy with gay marriage, so what they are doing is calling many of our Christian founders queers.”

Will you please point out which Christian Founders had multiple wives?

Jesus?
The 12 Apostles?
The replacement Apostle that took the place of Judas?
Paul?
Nope.

Well, that covers the foundation of the Church.

Any 1st generation Church Fathers have multiple wives?
None I know of... can you provide some names?

Any Popes?
Nope.

Luther?
Calvin?
Zwingli?
Nope.

Founders of Methodists?
Founders of Baptists?
Founders of Presbyterians?
Founders of Anglicans?
Nope.

You simply have to do better. There are not “many Christian Founders” who were polygamous. If there were some hidden there that fits your definition of “many”, please list them and educate me. Obviously, I must need it.

I will add that opposing “gay marriage” is based on changing the definition from one man and one woman who are not closely related to anything less.

To change the definition of marriage to two of anything, opens the door to polygamy, polyandry, bestiality, assorted groups, etc. No one is calling anyone else gay. They are opposing changing the definition of marriage from God’s definition - and here you should refer to creation and Christ’s reaffirmation of that definition in Genesis - to everything less than that.


52 posted on 07/13/2013 9:32:58 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.” - Tacitus)
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To: ravenwolf
If they think the Bible forbids plural marriage then they should do every thing they can to get rid of the very Bible they claim to believe in because many of the people who made possible the books which made the Bible possible had more than one wife.

The NT plainly talks about how leaders must be the husband of ONE WIFE.

Old Testament: Deut. 17:17: 17 He must not take many wives...

Besides Solomon, what OT book listed by his name was a polygamist?

Moses is offered up as the author of the first 5 books...was Moses a polygamist? (No)

Your argument comes down to a few like David & Solomon...and if you're thinking that Solomon's 1,000 combined concubines & wives was somehow common, think again.

David is usually the main "complex" one to sort out.

Some of his "wives" were actually concubines inherited along with everything else the new "king" inherited.

One of his wives, Michal, was taken away from him. Bathsheba was "unionized" via sheer adultery...not exactly exemplary as some sort of "model" to be followed.

All of this still doesn't explain ALL of his wives; but you are the one asserting "many"...

So beyond those few, who are your "many?"

54 posted on 07/13/2013 9:50:32 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: ravenwolf
Although one man an one woman is probably the ideal, i see nothing that forbids plural marriage.

Yes; it appears so.

Do you 'see' anything in the BIBLE that says it is an ambivalent issue to GOD?

59 posted on 07/13/2013 10:48:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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