Posted on 07/07/2013 10:37:51 AM PDT by Colofornian
On the day of July 8, 1838 -- 175 years ago tomorrow -- the original "prophet" of the Church of Mormon, Joseph Smith, made up four "revelations" from the Mormon god:
These are recorded in Doctrine & Covenants (numbers 117, 118, 119, & 120). Let's look at some of the verses in these:
117:12: I say unto you, I remember my servant Oliver Granger; behold, verily I say unto him that his name shall be had in sacred remembrance from generation to generation, forever and ever, saith the Lord."
Of course, you all know Oliver Granger, right? ....Uh, right?
Well, surely, you Mormons do. Right? You hold his name as a household sacred byword. Right? Generation after generation? Yes? No?
Apart from this entry, who remembers Oliver Granger? (And why?)
What? As Oliver Granger obscurity continues, a false prophesy by Smith, then? (Apparently so)
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Earlier in the chapter, Smith returns to talk about "the mountains of Adam-ondi-Ahman and on the plains of Olaha Shinehah, or the land where Adam dwelt..." (v. 8) [In D&C 116, Adam had unveiled less than two months earlier that "Adam shall come to visit his people" in this place; original reference was in D&C 78]
Per Lds "apostle" Bruce R. McConkie: "Adam-ondi-Ahman -- meaning the place or land of God where Adam dwelt -- is at a place called Spring Hill, Davies County, Missouri. This site is named by the Lord 'Adam-ondi-Ahman...'" (The Millennial Messiah, pp. 587-588)
LDS Church "prophet" Joseph Fielding Smith, Jr. stated that before the Second Coming, Adam will convene another meeting at that place to turn the government of the human family officially to Jesus Christ (Source: Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p. 13)
So...Spring Hill, MO...I know that's on the bluffs of a river. Yet Smith talks about "the mountains" of this area, which is now farmland owned by the Mormon church. What "mountains" rise up there?
Per another Lds "apostle" -- Mark E. Petersen, in his book, Adam: Who is He? -- says on p. 15 that Adam lived in Missouri.
Bricks
Start you own thread
Start your own thread
Please, start a thread about islamaics and ping us.
This thread is about momronISM in the Religion Forum.....hence the discussion of mormonISM.
You are correct “by their fruits you shall know them”, which refers to false prophets, and we certainly know Joseph Smith.
It is ground into mormons to “be nice”, they must earn their own salvation......they have no choice.
“Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the prophets, seers, revelators’ of the church, is cultivating the spirit of apostacy. One cannot speak evil of the lord’s anointed.
When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done”.
Ward Teachers Message, Deseret News, Church Section p. 5, May 26, 1945
“Always keep your eye on the President of the church, and if he ever tells you to do anything, even if it is wrong, and you do it, the lord will bless you for it but you don’t need to worry”.
LDS President Marion G. Romney (of the first presidency), quoting LDS President (and prophet) Heber J. Grant “Conference Report” Oct. 1960 p. 78
“When the Prophet speaks the debate is over”.
N. Eldon Tanner, August Ensign 1979, pages 2-3
***They are not allowed to care.
As Christians we ARE to call out false prophets and teachings.........you help bring NO ONE to the fold when you are afraid to challenge their belief construct and know nothing about it.
Oh, Sandy.
You might want to check that out, rather than repeating what SLC lds says in public.
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Interesting attempt at deflection of this thread, and yea a reminder the US Government doesn’t have a religion.
psst I saw a bunny...over there.
Meanie!
I notice you deflected my query altogether - and your reaction would make any MSM news type proud.
But from your attack on the questioner rather than answer the question would point to your having the same holier-than-thou pomposity as to who is Christian and who is not as these regulars who live to spew hatred against the LDS.
You admonished me thusly: “This thread is posted in the Religion Forum.
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I'll take that advice, since your ‘religious’ forum is more an intolerance forum - go ahead and ban me from it -
But stick to YOUR side of the fence. I'll stay out of YOUR nasty little domain in the ‘religious’ forum. Certainly, the precepts of Jesus are not to be found there. (Note my Tagline)
“These mormonism threads were not about Romney before he ever ran, nor are they about Romney after he ran”
BUT a good many were about Romney’s mormonism during the campaign and why it disqualified him from being a suitable alternative to be president.
You might want to add to that after these little babies ran to the moderator to silence us they still keep posting their ilk....so they can blaze away but we are told not to hurt the little darlings feelings!!!!
You might want to add to that after these little babies ran to the moderator to silence us they still keep posting their ilk to me....so they can blaze away but we are told not to hurt the little darlings feelings!!!!
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