Posted on 06/25/2013 11:41:40 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Edited on 06/25/2013 7:26:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
SANTA FE, N.M. A newspapers recent online design, which depicts a woman who looks like Lady of Guadalupe in a bikini, has drawn controversy from Catholics across the state.
The cartoon woman in The Santa Fe Reporter's "Summer Guide 2013" issue is wearing a yellow bikini, along with a blue cloak that covers the top of her head and nothing else. Behind the woman, there are yellow sun rays. She is sipping from a margarita glass.
The cover design has angered Catholics because of the woman's uncanny resemblance to Our Lady of Guadalupe.
I think that's very offensive, said local Catholic David Rodke. "(The paper) seems to be posing her as the Virgin of Guadalupe. That's blasphemous!"
Alexa Schirtzinger, the editor of The Santa Fe Reporter, declined to do an interview. However, Shirtzinger posted a blog in response to the outrage over the image.
"The intent of our Summer Guide cover design was not to insult or denigrate any religion or ethnicity, but rather to incorporate an important part of Santa Fe's culture into an image that also unites other diverse cultures that flourish in our city, Schirtzinger wrote in the blog.
Resident Terence Lente said the picture may be in poor taste, but theres no reason to censor it.
I can see how this could offend many people, Lente said. It [snip] people off but at the same time. Its freedom of speech.
The Santa Fe Reporter distributes close to 20,0000 copies each week to Albuquerque, Santa Fe and parts of northern New Mexico.
You’re the product of an outcome based education system, aren’t you?
bkmk
Your post had suggested that God the Father has sperm, and fathered Jesus physically. It just so happens that this is an actual Mormon belief about how Jesus was conceived.
It’s nice to see someone counterattack rather than use reasoned defense. Chicago-style religion, right?
He didn’t divorce her. They were married. How you perceive that he would’ve been committing adultery is beyond me. She was married to Joseph, she was never betrothed to God. Being a faithful Jew, he would’ve wanted to keep one of the first commandments God gave, “be fruitful and multiply.”
In your unlearned opinion
Second, do you not remember when Christ on the Cross rejected His mothers claim to Him? In a sense, transferred such mothership to John?
If Joseph and the Blessed Mother had had other children as you erroneously claimed, then why would Christ entrust the care of His mother to someone other than a sibling? Especially since He condemned the Pharisees for neglecting to care for their parents; the Korban rule, in Matthew 15?
Third, you are taking that commandment out of context.
In your unlearned opinion.
I am not the son of Mary.
John was not the son of the Blessed Mother. John was the son of Zebedee and Salome and the brother of James the Great. Why entrust the care of His mother to someone who was not her son?
Is God your biological father?
How about your unlearned opinion? Try actually reading and reasoning rather than just using Ailes-style debate tactics.
I think I’d rather entrust my mom to some close friends rather than to some in my family. He might have been doing the same.
God is my Spiritual Father, Mary is not my mother in any context.
Not surprising that you'd reach that conclusion. You're not unlike a failed community organizer who plays the race card when he knows he's losing the argument.
He didnt divorce her.
He was prepared to divorce her, just as Scripture teaches, until he found out that she had conceived the Messiah.
"Whereupon Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing publicly to expose her, was minded to put her away privately." Matthew 1:19
How you perceive that he wouldve been committing adultery is beyond me.
Your lack of knowledge of the Oral Law of Kiddushin and Scripture; both Old and New Testaments, is quite obvious.
Being a faithful Jew, he wouldve wanted to keep one of the first commandments God gave, be fruitful and multiply.
Was not Moses also a faithful Jew when he became a celibate for the remainder of his life after receivng the written Word and leaving Mount Sinai?
Your problem is that you project your limited acumen upon others. Quite simply, you're in over your head on this topic and I'd venture most others you foolishly opine on.
Agreed, but heeeeeeere they come...
Doing that was condemned by Christ in Matthew 15. Why do you refuse to acknowledge that? Christ condemned children for not taking care of their parents. If Joseph and Mary had had other children, why would Christ contradict Himself?
Mary is not my mother in any context.
The Blessed Mother is the spiritual mother of all Christians, just as she became the spiritual mother of St. John when her care was entrusted to him from the cross. Too bad you fail to comprehend that.
Now go and whine to the RM again because you're incapable of defending yourself. He/She/Alex is the only defense you have.
Never learned to speak the truth in love, did you?
“But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, Raca! shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, You fool! shall be in danger of hell fire.” - Matthew 5:22
I believe you have ventured beyond calling us fools.
Once again, show the Scripture where she is my spiritual mother, and she is owed my deference?
" And Jesus answering, said to them: You err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God." Matthew 22:29
Now go complain to your protector again.
"When Jesus therefore had seen His mother and the disciple standing whom He loved, He saith to His mother: Woman, behold thy son. After that, He saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own." John 19:26:27
Why would Christ have His mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, call the biological son of Zebedee and Salome her son? Where were the siblings of Christ you claim existed and why would He not entrust her care to them after condemning the Pharisees for failing to care for their parents?
"Because He hath regarded the humility of His handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed." Luke 1:48
I doubt the words "Blessed Mother" have ever passed your lips.
Moses was blessed.
Jacob was blessed.
Abraham was blessed.
Why no statues to them?
9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
10 As it is written:
There is none righteous, no, not one;
11 There is none who understands;
There is none who seeks after God.
12 They have all turned aside;
They have together become unprofitable;
There is none who does good, no, not one.[b]
13 Their throat is an open tomb;
With their tongues they have practiced deceit; [c]
The poison of asps is under their lips; [d]
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness.[e]
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways;
17 And the way of peace they have not known.[f]
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.[g]
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Gods Righteousness Through Faith
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all[h] who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
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“Oh, hooey! When you insult the Mother of God, you ARE insulting Jesus Christ. That can’t be that difficult to figure out.”
By that definition, every time you insult a Christian, you are committing blasphemy.
Mar 3:32-35 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. (33) And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? (34) And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! (35) For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
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