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To: OneVike; P-Marlowe; mitch5501; xzins; Greetings_Puny_Humans; JesusBmyGod; buffyt
As a well studied and faithful follower of Christ, I wholeheartedly reject John Calvin's reformed theology teaching. I consider it not only wrong, but dangerous to teach.

While I appreciate your opinion, it is not a truly Protestant view. It is a Catholic view. People who say they are "well studied" should understand what they are saying. I did not get my views from Calvin. And, shocking as this might sound, Calvin didn't get his views from himself. Like Calvin, I went back and studied Augustine's writings and history. It was Augustine who convinced me about God sovereignty and election-not Calvin. Free will is the heresy Augustine fought against. In fact, I still haven't had much chance to read Calvin's writings. And I do not find Augustine's writings "dangerous".

...That is what happens to many young Christians who come to faith under the Calvinist teachings. They figure they are not chosen and then walk away.

I can't speak for all Calvinists because there are not many that I personally know. Many at this site knows that I came to my Reformed views within the last four or five years based upon what others pointed out to me. I'm not sure how one can decide that they are not "chosen". It would seem to me that that would be something that only a person internally could answer. And if they came to the conclusion that they were not chosen and walked away, then isn't that what John tells us,

I have learned that today's hyper Calvinists will not be swayed by any logical explanation given. They will just reply to all arguments based on Scripture ...

LOL!!! We certainly can't let scripture get in our way.

68 posted on 06/27/2013 4:16:21 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; P-Marlowe; mitch5501; xzins; Greetings_Puny_Humans; JesusBmyGod
I will reply to your problems with my statement when I get a chance, but right now I am dealing with a family crisis.

However, please do not take what I wrote and leave it hanging at mid sentence and then act righteous.

You left of the underlined portion to make it say what you want others to think I said.
They will just reply to all arguments based on Scripture by finding Scripture they are convinced will deny what Christ meant when He told Nicodemus, "whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life".
If you want to be taken serious, never ever do that to my comments again. You reveal your leftists leanings when you do such things!
71 posted on 06/27/2013 4:54:54 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: HarleyD; OneVike; P-Marlowe; mitch5501; Alamo-Girl; Greetings_Puny_Humans; JesusBmyGod; buffyt

I, too, do not find Calvin’s views to be dangerous. I think he tried to seriously consider every verse and tie them together into a systematic theology that dealt comprehensively with the entire bible.

I’m with Alamo-girl on this one, though, to a large degree. I think both predestination AND free will are within scripture, and that we make a mistake in any system which doesn’t completely account for each of these.

As A-G has pointed out, God’s commandments require the exercise of obedience. In Acts 17 Paul clearly says that God commands everyone to repent.


73 posted on 06/27/2013 5:11:34 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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