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Caner sues to purge video from Web
Associated Baptist Press ^ | June 20, 2013 | Bob Allen

Posted on 06/21/2013 7:12:52 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Ergun Caner, now provost and vice president of academic affairs at Arlington Baptist College, in Arlington, Texas, filed a lawsuit June 18 in U.S. District Court North Texas District in Fort Worth claiming copyright infringement for reproducing, uploading and maintaining his videos without permission.

The complaint filed by Bartonville, Texas, attorney David Gibbs cites Jonathan Autry of Lynchburg, Va., who posted 34 videos of Caner on his YouTube account. YouTube removed the videos after Caner filed a takedown notice pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

Signed into law by President Clinton in 1998, the act made certain technical amendments to U.S. law to provide appropriate references and links to U.S. treaties. It also added two new prohibitions in Title 17 of the U.S. Code, one on circumvention of technological measures used by copyright owners to protect their works.

The complaint also names Jason Smathers, pastor of Golden Shores Baptist Church in Topock, Ariz., a small Southern Baptist congregation founded in 1974. Smathers posted two videos on his blog, Witnesses Unto Me, that showed Caner training Marines about Islamic culture in 2005.

Caner claims ownership of the videos, which he says are part of a series he titled, “Top Ten Things You Need to Know About Islam” that he delivered at the military’s invitation and for which he was paid as an independent contractor.

Caner claims both defendants “willfully and purposefully infringed” on his copyright claims and tried to circumvent his ownership claim by reposting video after it was blocked or pointing viewers to access on another site.

Caner petitioned U.S. District Judge Terry Means to assert his ownership of the videos and to prohibit Autry and Smathers from unauthorized reproduction or broadcasting of any of Caner’s copyrighted works. He also seeks compensation for legal expenses.

The disputed videos were among a number of blog and media reports alleging inconsistencies, exaggeration and fabrication in Caner’s talks and writings claiming he was trained as a terrorist while growing up overseas, and that he intended to carry out a terrorist attack on the United States before his conversion to Christianity at age 18.

Contradictory legal documents indicated that in reality Caner grew up in an Ohio suburb where his family moved when he was 2, and was raised by a Lutheran mother after she and his Muslim father divorced.

After an investigation, Liberty Seminary found Caner guilty of making "factual statements that are self-contradictory.” While not disputing the claim that Caner is a former Muslim, the investigation found “discrepancies related to matters such as dates, names and places of residence" in his writings and speeches.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: baptist; erguncaner
The complaint filed by Bartonville, Texas, attorney David Gibbs cites Jonathan Autry of Lynchburg, Va., who posted 34 videos of Caner on his YouTube account. YouTube removed the videos after Caner filed a takedown notice pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act...The complaint also names Jason Smathers, pastor of Golden Shores Baptist Church in Topock, Ariz., a small Southern Baptist congregation founded in 1974. Smathers posted two videos on his blog, Witnesses Unto Me, that showed Caner training Marines about Islamic culture in 2005...Caner petitioned U.S. District Judge Terry Means to assert his ownership of the videos and to prohibit Autry and Smathers from unauthorized reproduction or broadcasting of any of Caner’s copyrighted works. He also seeks compensation for legal expenses.

The disputed videos were among a number of blog and media reports alleging inconsistencies, exaggeration and fabrication in Caner’s talks and writings claiming he was trained as a terrorist while growing up overseas, and that he intended to carry out a terrorist attack on the United States before his conversion to Christianity at age 18. Contradictory legal documents indicated that in reality Caner grew up in an Ohio suburb where his family moved when he was 2, and was raised by a Lutheran mother after she and his Muslim father divorced.

1 posted on 06/21/2013 7:12:52 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: lightman

Tangential Lutheran reference.


2 posted on 06/21/2013 7:16:25 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I’ll have to go get the videos off of Torrent later on.


3 posted on 06/21/2013 8:41:16 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Alex Murphy

So, basically Caner lied about his youth and wants to limit access to videos he produced where he lied. Now he has violated scripture to continue the cover up. 1 Corinthians 6:4-8. Is this a fair assessment?


4 posted on 06/21/2013 9:00:05 AM PDT by refreshed
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To: refreshed

Looks that way to me.


5 posted on 06/21/2013 9:30:18 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Alex Murphy

Saying he was raised a Muslim when he was actually raised Lutheran. That seems like more than a slip of the lip.

Doesn’t he have a brother who has made similar claims?


6 posted on 06/21/2013 9:48:29 AM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

The Caner “Boys” have always seemed a little “flakey”.


7 posted on 06/21/2013 10:12:59 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: GrootheWanderer
Doesn’t he have a brother who has made similar claims?

I haven't heard so much from Emir Caner.

8 posted on 06/21/2013 10:22:08 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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To: Lee N. Field
What a great signature!

"You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya

9 posted on 06/21/2013 10:47:17 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

It’s there, ready and waiting, for the next time we have a big dispensational vs. everyone else row.


10 posted on 06/21/2013 11:16:51 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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To: US Navy Vet; PJ-Comix; lightman; Charles Henrickson

Just so y’all know...

I slowed down and spelled “tangential” really careful-like. :-)


11 posted on 06/21/2013 12:18:19 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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